hi list,
well,i also have many doepfer
envelopes(a140,141,142)and i like them very much!in
fact i can't see anything wrong on them!they have very
fast envelope times!!not like the ms20 ones...as for
the a121 to me sounds like the filter in my yamaha
cs15(sold now...).i like it's sound a lot!about newer
filters...i have most of them and i could nkit say
that they are better than the older ones at all!and
who said that doepfer copied their vco's or a121 or
envelopes from any particular synth
i,too,have AS vco's and the rs100,rs110 filters and
these are good,too, but not better in sound at
all(well,only the repeat function of the AS
envelopes-but these envelopes are more expensive than
the a140's,anyway) from the doepfer modules...i maybe
like the a110 and the a120,a121's sound more than the
sound of the AS modules...
also,you can't compare the a100 with the cheap
behringer products...
bakis.



--- selfoscillate < synaptic_music@... > wrote:

>
> hello hans,
>
> well i don't agree with you about several things
> like
> the a121 and the doepfer envelopes. but that is all
> a
> matter of taste.
>
> i'd like to see another doepfer vco, because there
> is
> a good change of improval amongst the old doepfer
> vco's.
>
> best wishes
>
> self oscillate
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "hans greuber"
> <turbotron69@h...> wrote:
> > Hi all :
> >
> > >People have asked before and I am now agreeing
> with them, how about
> > >a new VCO
> >
> > What Doepfer should do now is to do a MAC editor
> for their A-112
> sampler
> > that I have unused and disconnected,Did they know
> that almost
> eveybody in
> > the music community uses mac ( well nowadays that
> is changing).
> >
> > I think there is a big diference between early
> Doepfer modules and
> 3 years
> > to now modules .
> > Early ones were (and are) poor,terrible sounding
> ones.
> >
> > A-110 osc is very poor,I own 3 of them and I only
> use them for X-
> modulation
> > or FM sounds ,lead sounds with them are crap (I
> wonder if anybody
> knows from
> > what synth they cloned them ,
> >
> > The envelope is bad as hell ( closer to the Korg
> ms ones ,to me the
> worst
> > enveolpes ever) maybe they cloned from them, and
> has no body or
> punch
> > compared to the AS ones or an SH -101 per example.
> >
> > and the 121 multimode filter is simply the WORST
> sounding filter I
> have ever
> > heard,and can�t be compared to other brand ones.
> >
> > I�m not bashing Doepfer as I have 6 panels if
> their modules but
> some of them
> > are the WORST out there
> >
> > Others more modern are very good ,(maybe because
> are designed by
> other
> > people or cloned from better machines) : WASP
> filter,frequency
> > shifter,A-142,Formant filter,etc. and the
> upcoming beefed X-
> pander filter
> > wich seems incredible.
> >
> > That is my modest opinion , not another OSC from
> Doepfer ,they
> wouldn�t beat
> > other brand ones(MOTM,AS)
> > What they should do is to research new ones as
> I�m glad they
> changed their
> > Behringer like tactic ( Get
> > other brand product and do it cheaper )
> >
> > >What about a new style ADSR, like the korgs have
> 'Break Point'
> > >and 'slope' on their old ones.,
> >
> > NO please , a mix between Korg and Doepfer
> envelopes ( to me worst
> ever )
> > will be a bad taste joke
> >
> > Honestly:
> >
> > Hans Greuber
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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