hello hans,

well i don't agree with you about several things like
the a121 and the doepfer envelopes. but that is all a
matter of taste.

i'd like to see another doepfer vco, because there is
a good change of improval amongst the old doepfer vco's.

best wishes

self oscillate



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "hans greuber"
<turbotron69@h...> wrote:

> Hi all :
>
> >People have asked before and I am now agreeing with them, how about
> >a new VCO
>
> What Doepfer should do now is to do a MAC editor for their A-112

sampler

> that I have unused and disconnected,Did they know that almost

eveybody in

> the music community uses mac ( well nowadays that is changing).
>
> I think there is a big diference between early Doepfer modules and

3 years

> to now modules .
> Early ones were (and are) poor,terrible sounding ones.
>
> A-110 osc is very poor,I own 3 of them and I only use them for X-

modulation

> or FM sounds ,lead sounds with them are crap (I wonder if anybody

knows from

> what synth they cloned them ,
>
> The envelope is bad as hell ( closer to the Korg ms ones ,to me the

worst

> enveolpes ever) maybe they cloned from them, and has no body or

punch

> compared to the AS ones or an SH -101 per example.
>
> and the 121 multimode filter is simply the WORST sounding filter I

have ever

> heard,and can´t be compared to other brand ones.
>
> I´m not bashing Doepfer as I have 6 panels if their modules but

some of them

> are the WORST out there
>
> Others more modern are very good ,(maybe because are designed by

other

> people or cloned from better machines) : WASP filter,frequency
> shifter,A-142,Formant filter,etc. and the upcoming beefed X-

pander filter

> wich seems incredible.
>
> That is my modest opinion , not another OSC from Doepfer ,they

wouldn´t beat

> other brand ones(MOTM,AS)
> What they should do is to research new ones as I´m glad they

changed their

> Behringer like tactic ( Get
> other brand product and do it cheaper )
>
> >What about a new style ADSR, like the korgs have 'Break Point'
> >and 'slope' on their old ones.,
>
> NO please , a mix between Korg and Doepfer envelopes ( to me worst

ever )

> will be a bad taste joke
>
> Honestly:
>
> Hans Greuber
> >
> >
>
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