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As alread said by Andy: if you want to "multiply" the ADSR by the velocity
an additional external VCA is required.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com ]Im Auftrag von kloppe_andrew
> Gesendet: Montag, 6. Juni 2011 15:30
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: 1 Re: Dark Energy: Velocity + ADSR
>
>
> Thanks ;
>
> yes i tried patch CV3 to VCF F. The problem i had was the
> permanent signal/tone and the end of the ADSR envelope. VElocity
> works, but again the volume just doesn't decay to the inaudible.
>
> I tried fiddling with the suggestion.
>
> > Set VCA source to ADSR,
> > turn up AM full.
> > Patch CV3 to VCA A.
> >
> > Then starting with
> > Attack 0
> > Decay
> > Sustain 10
> > Release 0
>
> THat said, i just gave up. As you suggested i get the sense its
> not really possible with Dark Energy, as it comes out of the box.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , andy butler <akbutler@...> wrote:
> >
> > It's not possible without additional hardware.
> > To combine the ADSR with velocity they need to be multiplied together,
> > rather than added, and the DE simply doesn't have that feature
> available.
> >
> > So, you'd need another VCA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't know if you can get "good enough" by:-
> >
> > Set VCA source to ADSR,
> > turn up AM full.
> > Patch CV3 to VCA A.
> >
> > Then starting with
> > Attack 0
> > Decay
> > Sustain 10
> > Release 0
> >
> > ..and messing with VCA Amp control
> >
> > it *may* be possible that while the Velocity
> > is still changing the amplitude the ADSR is strong enough to
> > keep on gating the signal.
> >
> > If it works, then it might be worth fiddling with the Sustain
> and Decay controls
> > and see if anything useful occurs, ...but I suspect that using
> the Attack control
> > will give the problem of a delay to the start of the note.
> >
> >
> > I haven't tried it , just guessing.
> >
> >
> >
> > At the risk of telling you the obvious, you might like to patch
> > CV3 to VCF F
> >
> > ...or maybe someone else figured this out much better than I did ;-)
> >
> > andy
> >
> >
> > kloppe_andrew wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Not sure if what i am asking is possible. So....
> > >
> > > What do i have to patch in order for my note-velocity to work
> together
> > > with my envelope
> > >
> > > 1. I tried patching the output:envelope to the input:VCA A.
> however, in
> > > this case the velocity is not reflected.
> > >
> > > I tried patching the output:CV3 (I enabled velocity via
> midi-learn) to
> > > the input:VCA A. In this case i hear the velocities
> reflected. However,
> > > then i have a permanent tone. It never decay's; until i play the next
> > > note, etc.
> > >
> > > So my question is. Is it possible to Velocity and Envelop
> work together
> > >
> > > Appreciate any help.
> > >
> > > Best.
> > >
> > > H.eroshima
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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