Thanks ;

yes i tried patch CV3 to VCF F. The problem i had was the permanent signal/tone and the end of the ADSR envelope. VElocity works, but again the volume just doesn't decay to the inaudible.

I tried fiddling with the suggestion.

> Set VCA source to ADSR,
> turn up AM full.
> Patch CV3 to VCA A.
>
> Then starting with
> Attack 0
> Decay
> Sustain 10
> Release 0

THat said, i just gave up. As you suggested i get the sense its not really possible with Dark Energy, as it comes out of the box.

Cheers.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , andy butler <akbutler@...> wrote:
>
> It's not possible without additional hardware.
> To combine the ADSR with velocity they need to be multiplied together,
> rather than added, and the DE simply doesn't have that feature available.
>
> So, you'd need another VCA.
>
>
>
> Don't know if you can get "good enough" by:-
>
> Set VCA source to ADSR,
> turn up AM full.
> Patch CV3 to VCA A.
>
> Then starting with
> Attack 0
> Decay
> Sustain 10
> Release 0
>
> ..and messing with VCA Amp control
>
> it *may* be possible that while the Velocity
> is still changing the amplitude the ADSR is strong enough to
> keep on gating the signal.
>
> If it works, then it might be worth fiddling with the Sustain and Decay controls
> and see if anything useful occurs, ...but I suspect that using the Attack control
> will give the problem of a delay to the start of the note.
>
>
> I haven't tried it , just guessing.
>
>
>
> At the risk of telling you the obvious, you might like to patch
> CV3 to VCF F
>
> ...or maybe someone else figured this out much better than I did ;-)
>
> andy
>
>
> kloppe_andrew wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not sure if what i am asking is possible. So....
> >
> > What do i have to patch in order for my note-velocity to work together
> > with my envelope
> >
> > 1. I tried patching the output:envelope to the input:VCA A. however, in
> > this case the velocity is not reflected.
> >
> > I tried patching the output:CV3 (I enabled velocity via midi-learn) to
> > the input:VCA A. In this case i hear the velocities reflected. However,
> > then i have a permanent tone. It never decay's; until i play the next
> > note, etc.
> >
> > So my question is. Is it possible to Velocity and Envelop work together
> >
> > Appreciate any help.
> >
> > Best.
> >
> > H.eroshima
> >
>