So all you would need is a 4HP panel in the Doepfer case the took system gnd to a black banana socket. This saves alot of money, cables and space Bakis, why would you prefer to do it with banana to mini panels

Additionally, on complex patches, tracing cables would be easier.

TOny

> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> From: synth_freak_2000@...
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 05:33:42 -0700
> Subject: RE: 1 Serge compatability
>
> btw, the serge psu has a black banana ground input on
> the back of it, so you do not need to make a ground
> banana socket in the serge modular at all. that's how
> you could ground the Serge psu to other serge psu's,
> or to other modular makers psu's.
>
>
>
> --- Anthony Rolando < goldenechos@... > wrote:
>
> >
> > Bakis was sayin that you need alot of banana to
> > mini-jack panels. I disagree with this. I think a
> > more economical solution (with regards to both space
> > and money) would be to have a single 4hp system gnd
> > panel. This module would connect to the doepfer
> > powerbus and bring system GND to the panel via a
> > banana socket. Have a system GND socket added to the
> > front panel of your serge system (very simple
> > modification) and connect the two via a single
> > banana cable. GND is now shared.
> >
> > This method saves precious HP, allows you to use
> > FEWER cables to patch between systems, and allow you
> > to use Banana to mini-jack cables. These would have
> > only the TIP of the mini-jack connected to the
> > single element on the banana jack.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: synth_freak_2000@...
> > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:47:38 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: 1 Serge compatability
> > >
> > > me too.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- implode7@... wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually, that's very good to know, since I'm
> > > > building a modcan/cynthia/serge system. I very
> > much
> > > > like the metalbox stuff.
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message
> > > > ----------------------
> > > > From: Bakis Sirros < synth_freak_2000@... >
> > > > > yes, Metalbox does banana version modules, if
> > you
> > > > > want.
> > > > > i have some banana metalbox modules...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- implode7@... wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Metalbox is frac rac, isn't it - mini jacks,
> > not
> > > > > > bananas...unless he does those also.
> > > > > > -------------- Original message
> > > > > > ----------------------
> > > > > > From: Guy D2 < guy@... >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Has anyone any experience with or ideas
> > > > about
> > > > > > the wisdom of
> > > > > > > > interfacing Doepfer modules with as
> > Serge
> > > > system
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. It seems that Doepfer audio modules
> > run
> > > > at 5
> > > > > > volts peak to peak
> > > > > > > > (-2.5v to +2.5v ) - like the Serge -
> > and
> > > > uses
> > > > > > bananna plugs too, so
> > > > > > > > great, right
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doepfer uses 3mm (mini) phonejacks, not
> > > > banana's.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. How about Panel Size
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doepfer : 3U
> > > > > > > Serge: 4U
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not really compatible, hardware-wise. Two
> > > > > > different beasts...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3. Power supply
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doepfer does both 115/230V AC
> > > > > > > Doepfer DC rail: +/- 12V (opt: + 5V)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 4. Any other problems anyone can forsee
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don't know the electrical specs of the
> > Serge
> > > > > > systems,
> > > > > > > but I'd look seriously into the
> > gate/trigger
> > > > > > voltages
> > > > > > > before hooking both up.
> > > > > > > Most current modulars are electrically
> > > > compatible
> > > > > > > (their CV/audio signals, and gates mostly
> > > > too),
> > > > > > > but not always 100%.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Often not a real problem, but be careful
> > in
> > > > some
> > > > > > instances.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Finally, are ther other modular systems
> > > > anyone
> > > > > > is aware of that would
> > > > > > > > seem to be compaable with Serge
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MetalBox, Cynthia and ModCan A series all
> > use
> > > > > > banana jacks,
> > > > > > > and are more or less compatible with
> > Serge.
> > > > Buchla
> > > > > > too...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess our list moderator (Bakis) can
> > tell
> > > > you
> > > > > > all about this,
> > > > > > > since he owns all of the modules of all of
> > the
> > > > > > systems... ;-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Personally, when thinking about
> > crossbreeding
> > > > > > Doepfer with
> > > > > > > othe modulars, Serge is not the first
> > system
> > > > > > coming to my mind...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On a sidenote:
> > > > > > > I've been working on a complete
> > list/database
> > > > of
> > > > > > current
> > > > > > > modular systems compatibilities (both
> > > > mechanical
> > > > > > and electrical),
> > > > > > > but didn't finish it yet... Maybe one
> > day...
> > > > Need
> > > > > > some help here too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Guy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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