btw, the serge psu has a black banana ground input on
the back of it, so you do not need to make a ground
banana socket in the serge modular at all. that's how
you could ground the Serge psu to other serge psu's,
or to other modular makers psu's.



--- Anthony Rolando < goldenechos@... > wrote:

>
> Bakis was sayin that you need alot of banana to
> mini-jack panels. I disagree with this. I think a
> more economical solution (with regards to both space
> and money) would be to have a single 4hp system gnd
> panel. This module would connect to the doepfer
> powerbus and bring system GND to the panel via a
> banana socket. Have a system GND socket added to the
> front panel of your serge system (very simple
> modification) and connect the two via a single
> banana cable. GND is now shared.
>
> This method saves precious HP, allows you to use
> FEWER cables to patch between systems, and allow you
> to use Banana to mini-jack cables. These would have
> only the TIP of the mini-jack connected to the
> single element on the banana jack.
>
> Tony
>
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > From: synth_freak_2000@...
> > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:47:38 -0700
> > Subject: Re: 1 Serge compatability
> >
> > me too.
> >
> >
> > --- implode7@... wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Actually, that's very good to know, since I'm
> > > building a modcan/cynthia/serge system. I very
> much
> > > like the metalbox stuff.
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message
> > > ----------------------
> > > From: Bakis Sirros < synth_freak_2000@... >
> > > > yes, Metalbox does banana version modules, if
> you
> > > > want.
> > > > i have some banana metalbox modules...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- implode7@... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Metalbox is frac rac, isn't it - mini jacks,
> not
> > > > > bananas...unless he does those also.
> > > > > -------------- Original message
> > > > > ----------------------
> > > > > From: Guy D2 < guy@... >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Has anyone any experience with or ideas
> > > about
> > > > > the wisdom of
> > > > > > > interfacing Doepfer modules with as
> Serge
> > > system
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. It seems that Doepfer audio modules
> run
> > > at 5
> > > > > volts peak to peak
> > > > > > > (-2.5v to +2.5v ) - like the Serge -
> and
> > > uses
> > > > > bananna plugs too, so
> > > > > > > great, right
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doepfer uses 3mm (mini) phonejacks, not
> > > banana's.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. How about Panel Size
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Doepfer : 3U
> > > > > > Serge: 4U
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not really compatible, hardware-wise. Two
> > > > > different beasts...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. Power supply
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Doepfer does both 115/230V AC
> > > > > > Doepfer DC rail: +/- 12V (opt: + 5V)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4. Any other problems anyone can forsee
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't know the electrical specs of the
> Serge
> > > > > systems,
> > > > > > but I'd look seriously into the
> gate/trigger
> > > > > voltages
> > > > > > before hooking both up.
> > > > > > Most current modulars are electrically
> > > compatible
> > > > > > (their CV/audio signals, and gates mostly
> > > too),
> > > > > > but not always 100%.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Often not a real problem, but be careful
> in
> > > some
> > > > > instances.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Finally, are ther other modular systems
> > > anyone
> > > > > is aware of that would
> > > > > > > seem to be compaable with Serge
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MetalBox, Cynthia and ModCan A series all
> use
> > > > > banana jacks,
> > > > > > and are more or less compatible with
> Serge.
> > > Buchla
> > > > > too...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess our list moderator (Bakis) can
> tell
> > > you
> > > > > all about this,
> > > > > > since he owns all of the modules of all of
> the
> > > > > systems... ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally, when thinking about
> crossbreeding
> > > > > Doepfer with
> > > > > > othe modulars, Serge is not the first
> system
> > > > > coming to my mind...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On a sidenote:
> > > > > > I've been working on a complete
> list/database
> > > of
> > > > > current
> > > > > > modular systems compatibilities (both
> > > mechanical
> > > > > and electrical),
> > > > > > but didn't finish it yet... Maybe one
> day...
> > > Need
> > > > > some help here too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Guy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > >
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