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When my oberheim drummer triggers my drum machine, it is quieter than when I press the pads myself. Is this normal I suppose it could be a voltage problem or my midi components wearing down.

--- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , "sokkerkid10101" <sokkerkid10101@...> wrote:
>
> Oh god I hope not...those were the crappiest solder joints; I am surprised it even turned on. But it did!
>
> --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , Martin Ator <cyllall@> wrote:
> >
> > Well done. You will be building your own synthesisers next.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: sokkerkid10101 <sokkerkid10101@>
> > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tue, 15 February, 2011 7:29:06
> > Subject: [oberheim] Re: Oberheim Perf/x Drummer problem
> >
> >
> > Fixed! Replaced voltage regulator
> > thanks
> >
> > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , "sokkerkid10101" <sokkerkid10101@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone happen to know the voltage/amps/current of the perf/x unit's power
> > >adapter
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , Martin Ator <cyllall@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There's some test points on the PCB near the Intel CPU. +5 and GND. You can
> > > > check the function of the regulator here and monitor any changes in voltage.
> > > > The PC900 could cause midi problems. According to the datasheet the LED
> > >that's
> > >
> > > > inside the PC900 decreases in luminosity by 50% after 5 years of use. You
> > >could
> > >
> > > > possibly test the Midi by using Midi thru socket instead of the Midi in(if it
> > >
> > > > has a midi thru socket) Try a sysex dump out and send it back in with the
> > >midi
> > >
> > > > in port to test that if it doesn't work properly try the thru. I don't know
> > >if
> > >
> > > > the cyclone has a verify sysex function. You should use that and not load
> > > > directly into memory if poss. You could maybe change the Midi in 220 ohm
> > > > resistor (R4 )to 150 or 120 ohm.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: sokkerkid10101 <sokkerkid10101@>
> > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sat, 29 January, 2011 9:42:30
> > > > Subject: [oberheim] Re: Oberheim Perf/x Drummer problem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Read through some other google links
> > > > do you think it could possibly be the photocoupler (pc900)
> > > > I will also start testing the regulator, since that
> > > > is what some have claimed to cause them problems. It's not
> > > > the power supply and all solder points and resistors look good...
> > > >
> > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , "cyllall" <cyllall@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm looking at some pictures of a Cyclone I found online as I don't have
> > >any
> > >
> > > > >Perf/x stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Check that all the legs in any socketed chips are actually in the socket.
> > >It is
> > >
> > > > >possible when putting a chip in, to bend the legs back on themselves in a
> > >"U"
> > >
> > > > >shape and it looks like they are in and they're not.
> > > > > There may be something wrong with your display showing 3 instead of 8.
> > > > > You can check for cracked solder or a short circuit by the
> > >display/resistors
> > >
> > > > >and underneath.
> > > > > This could be a power supply problem.
> > > > > You need to check the +5v and GND test points on the board.
> > > > > If you clip a crocodile clip to the regulator(as a heatsink) and it then
> > >takes
> > >
> > > > >longer to go funny then it could be the regulator.
> > > > > Make sure your power adapter is the correct voltage and unless it's the
> > >same
> > >
> > > > >mah rating as the original(or is the original) it should be a
> > >regulated/switched
> > >
> > > > >mode supply, so as not force too much current in.
> > > > > I would take the battery out for now as it could hold corrupted data in the
> > >
> > > > >RAM.
> > > > > Wait a few minutes and do a hard reset.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , "sokkerkid10101" <sokkerkid10101@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > narfman96:
> > > > > > No nothing seems to be getting too hot but that seems like a very logical
> > >
> > > > >possibility and would explain why there is a delay for it reverting to a
> > >state
> > >
> > > > >of 0 ram, maybe the bad component is dealing with the ram
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin:
> > > > > > The original battery was a DL2032, I tore that out and have in it now a
> > > > >CR2032. The original ram (8k one)is# made by hyuandai, I replaced it with a
> > >32k
> > >
> > > > >of HM62256LP-10.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One thing to note is that when the version displays on startup, it says
> > >3.3,
> > >
> > > > >although the manual says it should be at least 3.8
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes the CPU (and the ROM for that matter) both appear to be in correctly
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes there is only one ram chip
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And yes I have access to a voltmeter (and one of those displays that show
> > >
> > > > >current and stuff-i know I sound like an idiot, I can't remember the name of
> > >
> > > > >them right now) I am not keen on circuitry however
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , "narfman96" <narfman96@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This problem sounds like a component is overheating and shutting down.
> > >A
> > >
> > > > >capacitor could be leaking to ground. Have a tech look at the power circuit
> > >and
> > >
> > > > >then the cpu and the rest of the digital section. Is anything getting warm
> > >or
> > >
> > > > >hot
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Fran
> > > > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , Martin Ator <cyllall@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > What type of battery is it CR2032
> > > > > > > > What is the part number of the original RAM, is it something like
> > >this on
> > >
> > > > >the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > end ******-15L
> > > > > > > > Have you identified the CPU, is it in a socket, is there only one RAM
> > >
> > > > >chip, have
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > you got a voltmeter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: sokkerkid10101 <sokkerkid10101@>
> > > > > > > > To: oberheim@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sat, 22 January, 2011 12:17:01
> > > > > > > > Subject: [oberheim] Re: Oberheim Perf/x Drummer problem
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you for the reply and info about the battery
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I put a 32k ram chip in there but the problem still persists. However
> > >I
> > >
> > > > >believe
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > the problem is due to something with the RAM since I get the same
> > > > >messages when
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > there is no RAM chip in it; except it takes a few moments to occur
> > >when
> > >
> > > > >there is
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > a chip in it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Any other help would be appreciated, I can make a video if needed.
> > >Also
> > >
> > > > > > > > considering taking it to a pro...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , "Steve" <steve@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The battery keeps the data in the RAM alive. Without it, it would
> >
> > > > >revert back
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >to factory
> > > > > > > > > settings when you shut off the power. Today we would use Flash
> > >memory
> > >
> > > > >for
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >this, but battery backed RAM was one of the better options back
> > >then.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As far as curing what ills your drummer, I can only suggest
> > >reseating
> > >
> > > > >anything
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >that is socketed, in case oxidation is making a bad connection
> > > > >somewhere.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --> Steve
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In oberheim@yahoogroups.com , "sokkerkid10101" <sokkerkid10101@>
> > >
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hey all, first of all- hi
> > > > > > > > > > I was running out of options until I found this wonderful group!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Secondly,
> > > > > > > > > > I just purchased an oberheim drummer off ebay and it started
> > >giving
> > >
> > > > >me
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >problems immediately. The issue is that, if I let it sit and rest
> > >for a
> > >
> > > > >bit, it
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >starts up fine and works great, until after about 1-3 minutes when
> > >all
> > >
> > > > >of the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >function become inaccessible. AKA it shows "0" for preset, and it is
> > >
> > > > > > > > >unchangeable, as well as all other functions show "oF" and I cannot
> >
> > > > >change it.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >This will happen immediately if I just switch it from on to off.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have it opened up here (got scared that I had destroyed it on
> > >one
> > >
> > > > >or two
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >occasions while playing with the ram and eprom). I am trying a new
> > > > >battery but i
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >don't have my soldering iron here at school so it is just sitting
> > > > >between the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > >tabs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > what does the battery do btw
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > And I have a new 32K X 8 ram on its way.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Any other suggestions
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you!
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