Does it mean that the sens slider will no longer control the parameter value??
I really like to control the parameters via this slider even if I agree that the use of groupeA-groupeB would be more usefull for switch functions!!!

J.

--- In kiwitechnics@yahoogroups.com , Florian Anwander <fanwander@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> The last days (and nights) I discussed with Murray an alternative user
> interface for the Kiwi-3P. Now we think that the result of our thoughts
> is that good, that we want to put it up for discussion here.
>
> Please don't hesitate to comment.
>
> Florian
>
> --------------------------------
> Here we go:
>
> 1.) Basic function keys:
>
> The "Tape"-button acts as a shift button (with exception of boot load mode).
>
> The "Write" button becomes a combined "Edit/Write/Cancel" button
>
>
> 2.) Parameter selection and access:
>
> Like until now there are 64 patches accessible via bank buttons A, B, C,
> D and patch buttons #1-#16.
>
> Patch parameters are reduced to 64 parameters accessible via bank
> buttons A, B, C, D and patch buttons #1-#16. (The GroupA AA AAA/ GroupB
> BB buttons are no longer used for parameter selection - for their future
> use see paragraph 6).
>
> Parameters like arpeggio settings, clock source, bender amount, mod
> wheel amount, portamento, keyboard algorithm, MIDI channel(*), etc. are
> moved to the so called 64 function parameters which are accessed by
> Shift-A, Shift-B, Shift-C, Shift-D and #1-#16. The function parameters
> are not related to the patterns, but are valid for all patches (there
> will be partial exceptions though).
>
> I will post detailled list of the parameters in a separate mail.
>
>
> 3.) Patch edit mode:
>
> In this mode you change the patch parameters like Cutoff frequncy,
> Attack DCO tune etc. (not exciting new).
>
> You get from "patch select mode" to "patch edit mode" by pressing
> "edit/write". Write LED is lit only as long as you press the write
> button. For display of patch edit mode see paragraph 5.
> It loads the patch parameters in the edit buffer. You may change the
> parameter values now.
>
> Changing parameters in the PE does not(!) automatically change to "patch
> edit mode". If you changed a parameter via PE or MIDI and switch over
> then to "patch edit mode", the changed of the parameter will be kept in
> the edit mode.
>
> Storing the edited patch to a patch program works as we are used until now.
>
> There will be a "compare" mode later with a cancel-edit function via
> "Tape"+"Write".
>
>
>
> 4.) Function edit mode:
>
> Function edit mode sets parameters which affect all patches the same way
> like arpeggio mode, clock select, midi channel, etc.
>
> You get from patch select mode or patch edit mode to function edit mode
> by pressing "Tape"+"edit/write". Now edit the function settings.
> There is no need for an extra write action as function values are
> written directly into the function memory.
> For display of function edit mode see paragraph 5.
>
> To leave the function edit mode simply press "Tape"+"edit/write" again.
> You will return to where you were before: either patch select or patch
> edit mode.
>
>
> 5.) Display of different mode
> In Patch select mode, the selected bank LED and number LED are lit
> continously.
>
> If a parameter is changed via the PE or a MIDI command, the write LED
> starts blinking.
>
> Beeing in paramater edit mode is displayed by a short blinking bank-LED,
> the long blinking number-LED (where the number and bank LED blink
> alternating).
>
> Beeing in function edit mode is displayed by a long blinking bank LED
> and a short blinking number LED and the given value as steady LED
>
> The given value is in both cases displayed by a steady lit number-LED.
> If value and parameter number are identical then the corresponding
> number-LED should blink parallel to the bank-LED.
>
> All value settings (even switches) are displayed by the LEDs 1-16.
>
> In sequencer edit mode, oder pattern edit mode the bank LEDs are off.
> The number LEDs are used as in the original JX-3P.
>
>
>
>
> 6.) Parameter input
>
> In "patch edit mode" and "function edit mode" the buttons "Group A" and
> "Group B" become increment / decrement buttons. This is more useful for
> switch functions. And also the EDIT slider doesn't really resolve
> mechanically the possible 128 steps in detail (did you ever try to
> change the attack time from 0 to 1 with the edit slider? ;-) ).
>
> In "patch select mode" the sense slider should act for the chorus (speed
> or manual setting). Maybe one can also define a default parameter for
> the sense slider in "patch select mode" in the function settings.
>
>
>
>
> 7.) Pattern/Arpeggio/Chordmemory/Hold/Keytranspose
>
> The activation of those modes will work like this:
> "Shift+Mute" = Pattern on/off
> "Shift+Hold" = Arpeggio on/off
> "Shift+Key-Transpose" = Chordmemory on/off
>
> "Hold" works like in the original 3p Upgrade.
> "Key Transpose" works like in the original 3p Upgrade.
>
> The Sequencer handling will be as in the original JX-3P.
>
> The clock for Sequencer, Arpeggiator and Pattern can be set to different
> clock sources.
>
> It will be possible to chain Sequencer -> Arpeggiator -> Chordmemory.
> (of course each of them can be disabled separately). Example: You can
> program a Chord progression in the sequencer and let it clock by MIDI/96
> (=new chord each bar). This chord sequence is arpeggiated with a MIDI/6
> clock (=16th notes).
> Or: Sequencer plays a Chordmemory line (all Deep House addicts will
> freak out on this).
>
>
>
> 8.) Bootloader
> Bootloader should work as you designed it (switch on while holding "Tape")
>
>
>
>
>
> Florian
>