I try to avoid hacks that involve cutting holes in synths as there is a potential for non recoverable install mistakes and the result always seems to look very unprofessional. I'm probably naive but I like to think adding a Kiwi upgrade makes the synth worth at least as much as the cost.
MH
Hello,
thanks for your input. Yes, the Angelcity/Musitronics expansion added extra waveforms, a pseudo-random for the LFO and extra user patches memory. I had a 2nd DW8000 with that board. It was not that convincing, I must say. I sold the expanded DW8000 and kept the normal one.
Murray: wouldn't it be possible to shunt (with a switch which leaves you the possibility to have either a normal DW or an kiwitechnics/Expanded DW) the waveforms/LFO/envelopes of the DW so that the exp a nsion board goes directly into the filter/VCA and digital filter?
The expansion board would function as a waveform and modulation generator on its own. It would not "muscle up" the existing waveform and mod generators, but replace them.
All the best,
Alex.
Le 14/11/2017 à 07:08, Chas D 350ypvs@... [kiwitechnics] a écrit :
I was wrong about that too! The waveform expansion has been done on the DW8000 too. Problem is, no-one appears to sell the mod/ kit, and those that have done it don't seem to want to share the details about it for some reason. Could be a good enough reason for Murray to get on board?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyQyGtIZbSk
On 14 November 2017 at 01:00, Chas D < 350ypvs@... > wrote:
Ah, I remembered wrong about the extra waveforms. That was offered by another upgrade, the Strellis mod. Also, I think it only applied to the DW6000:
http://www.strellis.com/ dw6000.shtml
On 14 November 2017 at 00:56, Chas D < 350ypvs@... > wrote:
There used to be something called the Musitronics upgrade, which I think was previously known as the Angel City Mod. It's still listed on the Musitronics website, however, I think the website is abandoned. Clicking on the link for the DW8000 upgrade price takes you to a dead link, and other people on other forums have mentioned that they got no response from emailing the site over the past few years. A shame, as it offered a lot of usual extra features for the DW, including extra waveforms and expanded user patch memory, similar to some of the features you were asking for.
http://www.musitronics.org/pro ducts/dw8000_ex_e.html
On 13 November 2017 at 14:01, Murray Hodge yahoo@... [kiwitechnics] < kiwitechnics@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
No. The DW6&8000 hardware is way too complex. These Korgs use very fast hardware multipliers with ROM lookup to get waves & envelopes. It doesn't leave room for doing much with it.
It's one of those synths that is what it is.
MH
On 13/11/2017 9:48 PM, iskandar iskandar@... [kiwitechnics] wrote:
Hello Murray,
have you ever considered making an upgrade board for the DW8000 (with more waveforms and the ability to load some, oscillators sync like on the DSS1, faster envelopes, 2 or 3 LFOs with more waveshapes)?
It is a wonderful little synth with a real personality. I have used the ext. in on the PE to add some new modulations and this synth has the ability to go into the Polyevolver territory (with a better sound if you ask me, fatter and warmer).
Would be great.
Thanks.
Alex.
Le 13/11/2017 à 04:33, Murray Hodge yahoo@... [kiwitechnics] a écrit :
I will look at the MKS-30 next year as it is a rather capable unit and a nice mix of the 3P & 106. I have a couple of projects on the go but if they don't stop being a PITA they will get shelved. There is a tendency to make each new upgrade more complex than the last and I think I need to reverse that as it is becoming too hard to develop them. The K106 is a prime example as we spent an entire year putting in some really cool hoopy stuff that AFAIK nobody is even using.
The K3P will be around for a bit yet as it is proving a little difficult to stop. Since the announcement sales have gone from nothing to the point it is worthwhile to continue making it. I will review it again in the new year. After that it will need to be in batches when there are sufficient orders for a batch.
The upload process is fairly robust as long as the bootloader is ok. You can recover from most file sending issues.
MH
On 13/11/2017 3:29 PM, rob.ocelot@... [kiwitechnics] wrote:
Thanks, Murray.
I'd rather not brick my PE, especially after nearly bricking my Kiwi-3P earlier today. Midi-OX ran into a buffer overflow in the middle of an upgrade (thankfully not during the bootloader upload!). Had to change my shorts afterward. :-)
Does this mean a Kiwi MKS-30 upgrade is off the books? I was considering Johannes' upgrade but I held off in case there was a Kiwi one in the works.
Last question: Roughly how many 3P upgrades are left? I've indicated to a few friends that they better move fast if they were considering an upgrade, and I might pick up another 3P to upgrade if one comes my way for cheap.
