hi bakis, no problem for the poll. it will take an hour or so to do it.
it will be complete and precise.
if anyone has questions on any of the features
that i propose. i will be glad to answer any questions.

to andreas, it gets confusing to explain functions and features
with out drawing a block diagram. just try the best you can.
also re-read them and make mental notes as if you were learning
something new. hope this helps. i don't want to sound holier than thou
or preachy, but try reading the allen strange book on synthesis techniques.
it describes what i am talking about from the base of what the modules
should do and their functions. the sequencer chapter is brilliant and
very informative and can serve as a base for creative and complex
patches. enjoy.

cheers,
RM

- In Doepfer_a100@y..., bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:

> hey RM,
> you really seem to know a lot about the buchla sensor
> keyboard and the serge T.K.B.!!
> PLEASE,DO ME A FAVOUR:as you have so many interesting
> suggestions ,create a new poll about the sensor
> keyboard with more additional features that you would
> like to see included(name it,poll part 3,or
> something...).i would be really grateful if you do
> this.
> thanks.
> bakis.
>
> --- ringmod45 <ringmod45@y...> wrote:
> > well said, we need more of us to speak out in order
> > for doepfer to
> > realise it is a pressing issue. the issue of having
> > a sequencer on
> > the touch keyboard is somehow good and then not
> > good. if you want
> > achieve Serge TKB like functions one let alone two
> > rows of pots will
> > not do the trick. if you have two rows of pots the
> > only musical
> > function you can perform is a trill, if you clock
> > them vertically.
> > you have to ask yourself is it worth the price. so
> > by having only two
> > rows you are underachieveing, hence limiting your
> > self. a better
> > option would be to have a seperate sequencer beside
> > the touch
> > keyboard. you than make it behave the same way as
> > the Serge TKB or
> > the Buchla model 246, minus the touch plates. so you
> > make the
> > sequencer with 24 pots per row and have 4 rows. you
> > then have below a
> > control input and 3-way toggle switch for each
> > stage, which has 3
> > functions, bottom position the keyboard plate turns
> > on that row so it
> > can cycle the notes set by pots and the vertical
> > clock. middle
> > position turns vertical clock off peforms a mute for
> > the horizontal
> > clock. the top position accepts a gate or trig to
> > cycle through the
> > four vertical. you have an ABCD output and a
> > vertical clock input.
> > you have an individual output for each column. you
> > have 4 separate
> > horizontal outputs A, B, C, and D . you perform the
> > horizontal end
> > point or reset, by having 4 ABCD buttons on the
> > touch keyboard. press
> > and hold the button down and touch a corresponding
> > key on the touch
> > key board to set the length of the sequence and
> > presto.
> > this combination of two separate units working in
> > tandem would be a
> > far more realistic way of combining all the features
> > that we are
> > trying to include. that way the units on their are
> > full featured and
> > don't lose any by having every function one unit and
> > be limited by
> > space and have them cut down to accomadate all of
> > them on one unit.
> > by having them working in tandem you achieve a
> > powerful tool for some
> > serious control and manipulation. i hope someone at
> > doepfer see the
> > light on this concept.
> > regards,
> > RM
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "thepeak" <thepeak@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I don't contribute all that often; I do make the
> > time to read as
> > much as I
> > > can with regards to this group. The touch sensor
> > keyboard should
> > surely be
> > > just that. No sequencer, simply a touch sensitive
> > board. It is
> > then up to
> > > the individual to incorporate it as they see fit.
> > The maq is
> > cracking
> > > sequencer, as is the a155, as I understand are AS
> > and the like.
> > Let doepfer
> > > use the time to improve the ******werk sequencers.
> > They have the
> > potential
> > > to be the most elaborate of all hardware/analogue
> > style sequencers
> > ever. My
> > > main gripe with the schaltwerk is the inability to
> > write patterns
> > on the fly
> > > longer than 16 notes. (Without pasting it over to
> > a new pattern)
> > Roland
> > > managed it with the TR909 and that was some time
> > ago and until the
> > > schaltwerk is capable of achieving immediate
> > writing of notes on a
> > pattern
> > > of greater than 16.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > To all
> > >
> > > Tris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: david.salter@r... [mailto:david.salter@r...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:11 PM
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> > > Subject: Re: 1 A little about that
> > touch keyboard
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree that if a sequencer is to be incorporated
> > into the touch
> > keyboard it
> > > has to be fully integrated.
> > >
> > > The point that has been made by some people,
> > myself included is
> > that it can
> > > be an add on and it would have to offer more than
> > a155 (just as you
> > > intimate).
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > bakis Sirros
> > > <synth_freak_2000@ To:
> > > Doepfer_a100@y...
> > > yahoo.com> cc:
> > >
> > Subject: Re:
> > > 1 A little about that touch keyboard
> > > 27/02/2002 13:47
> > Header: Internal
> > Use Only
> > > Please respond to
> > > Doepfer_a100
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ooooooo.......don't you understand that this
> > sequencer
> > > NEEDS to be with the sensor keyboard the keys of
> > the
> > > keyboard are used for activating steps/changing
> > > seq.lenght on the fly!!!so,it is nessessary to
> > have a
> > > touch-sensor keyboard/sequencer!!!!!!!!!
> > > synthfreak
> > >
> > > --- davevosh@a... wrote:
> > > > In a message dated 2/26/2002 12:12:07 PM Eastern
> > > > Standard Time,
> > > > andreas.k.lindholm@t... writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > If the touch keyboard would amount to anything
> > > > good I would say that it
> > > > > should either exclude all sequencer functions
> > or
> > > > they should be very
> > > > > carefully thought out. There is as far as I
> > > > understand it no point in adding
> > > > > something that if very limited when there are
> > > > several other solutions to do
> > > > > it better.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hello !
> > > > i must agree here wholeheartedly ! better a
> > > > superior touch kybd / controller
> > > > than a mediocre sequencer. after the kybd is
> > > > completed, take a second look a
> > > > sequencing and envelope generation using
> > something
> > > > still visionary, even
> > > > after all these years, like the old buchla
> > multiple
> > > > arbitrary random function
> > > > generator as a conceptual starting point.
> > > > let each module "be what it is" and avoid
> > "creeping
> > > > feature-itis" ..........
> > > > best,
> > > > dave
> > > >
> >
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