Ingo,

I like the ibanez ad 230, but please don't bother getting details. The
new batch Moogerfooger delays would be the alternative, but the
price is crazy

Anton

On 13 Oct 2005, at 12:42, selfoscillate wrote:

>
> hello anton,
>
> which bbd-delay is that you are speaking of
> maybe i can get some details about the used circuit.
>
> best wishes
>
> ingo
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "Anton Coops" <dubshot@x...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ingo, hi Florian,
> >
> > What I mean with 'solid' is wobble-free bass down to about 150 Hz.
> I
> > don't really care about the high frequencies, that's what tape
> echo's
> > are for. One of my bbd-delays has 'solid' sound but no vc, so
> that's
> > why I asked Dieter for one.. :-)
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Anton
> >
> > On 13 Oct 2005, at 11:43, selfoscillate wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > hello anton,
> > >
> > > 500 ms delays on a bbd-module would greatly decrease
> > > the frequency range of the audio signal.
> > > even the biggest bbd-based delays cannot output
> > > frequencies greater than 1 khz with a delay time of 500 ms.
> > > so digital delays are much better for such tasks.
> > >
> > > best wishes
> > >
> > > ingo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "Anton Coops" <dubshot@x>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Before there were plans for several bbd-modules, but it sounds
> like
> > > > there will be only one big fat extremely cool 'universal' bbd
> > > module
> > > > now Great news!
> > > >
> > > > Just one remark: personally I wouldn't mind an additional bbd
> > > > module that's optimized for solid sound at delay times around
> 500
> > > > ms or longer, but just as an extra, you know... ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 13 Oct 2005, at 3:34, Bakis Sirros wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hello david,
> > > > > it's a Switched Capacitor filter. don't ask me though
> > > > > anything more, i do not know. i guess that it sounds
> > > > > quite different from the other filter modules dieter
> > > > > best regards,
> > > > > bakis.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- David Salter <david.salter@r...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Fantastic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm really looking forward to the sound files for
> > > > > > the BBD module, very
> > > > > > interesting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may have missed something but any ideas on what
> > > > > > the " SC-filter " is
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rgds
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > dieter says:
> > > > > > "we are very busy as we want to show some new
> > > > > > modules
> > > > > > at the NAMM in January. During the last few days the
> > > > > > prototype of the BBD module was assembled, tested
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > corrected/improved and I'm confidential that it will
> > > > > > be ready for NAMM. After the first tests with the
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > BBD circuits I have changed my mind (in my last
> > > > > > messages I was not sure if we will manufacture a BBD
> > > > > > module - now I am !). After playing with the
> > > > > > prototype
> > > > > > (which looks very confused in the meantime because
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the many additional soldered parts and wires) I
> > > > > > really love the imperfections and drawbacks of the
> > > > > > BBDs. I can say that it can be a very extreme
> > > > > > sounding
> > > > > > module and it will be up to the musician to use it
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > a standard application (normal flanger/chorus/short
> > > > > > delay) or beyond the usual conditions. E.g. the BBD
> > > > > > circuits are normally allowed/specified for a
> > > > > > minimum
> > > > > > clock rate of 10kHz. Yesterday we modified the (of
> > > > > > course voltage controlled) clock oscillator so that
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > can go down to a few hundred Hz. Completely strange
> > > > > > sounds appear at low clock frequencies as the BBDs
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > operated out of their specifications. It sounds very
> > > > > > lofi, a bit like a bit cruncher or a the A-112 at
> > > > > > low
> > > > > > clock settings. The reason for the strange sound is
> > > > > > not only the low clock frequency but even the BBD
> > > > > > behaviour as the 2048 capacitors of the circuit have
> > > > > > "problems" to keep their charges as the clock
> > > > > > frequency becomes smaller. In principle a BBD is
> > > > > > made
> > > > > > of a lot of capacitors (2048 for our module) and the
> > > > > > charges are forwarded from one capacitor to the next
> > > > > > one at each new clock. So it's nothing but an analog
> > > > > > shift register but limited to a minimum clock rate
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > ~ 10kHz. At lower frequencies signal losses appear
> > > > > > (in
> > > > > > addition to the always existing poor signal of a BBD
> > > > > > device). I will do some MP3's and publish them
> > > > > > a.s.a.p.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the rest of this week the SC-filter prototype
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > to be assembled and tested and next week the core of
> > > > > > the universal AD/DA module is planned (smd board
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > processor and delay memory) . I will give you
> > > > > > details
> > > > > > as soon as I know more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since 2 weeks we even have much more web space
> > > > > > available so that we will put more sound examples to
> > > > > > our web site. But there are so many jobs to do and
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > have to decide what to do first.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes
> > > > > > Dieter"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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