well said, we need more of us to speak out in order for doepfer to
realise it is a pressing issue. the issue of having a sequencer on
the touch keyboard is somehow good and then not good. if you want
achieve Serge TKB like functions one let alone two rows of pots will
not do the trick. if you have two rows of pots the only musical
function you can perform is a trill, if you clock them vertically.
you have to ask yourself is it worth the price. so by having only two
rows you are underachieveing, hence limiting your self. a better
option would be to have a seperate sequencer beside the touch
keyboard. you than make it behave the same way as the Serge TKB or
the Buchla model 246, minus the touch plates. so you make the
sequencer with 24 pots per row and have 4 rows. you then have below a
control input and 3-way toggle switch for each stage, which has 3
functions, bottom position the keyboard plate turns on that row so it
can cycle the notes set by pots and the vertical clock. middle
position turns vertical clock off peforms a mute for the horizontal
clock. the top position accepts a gate or trig to cycle through the
four vertical. you have an ABCD output and a vertical clock input.
you have an individual output for each column. you have 4 separate
horizontal outputs A, B, C, and D . you perform the horizontal end
point or reset, by having 4 ABCD buttons on the touch keyboard. press
and hold the button down and touch a corresponding key on the touch
key board to set the length of the sequence and presto.
this combination of two separate units working in tandem would be a
far more realistic way of combining all the features that we are
trying to include. that way the units on their are full featured and
don't lose any by having every function one unit and be limited by
space and have them cut down to accomadate all of them on one unit.
by having them working in tandem you achieve a powerful tool for some
serious control and manipulation. i hope someone at doepfer see the
light on this concept.
regards,
RM

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "thepeak" <thepeak@b...> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I don't contribute all that often; I do make the time to read as
much as I
> can with regards to this group. The touch sensor keyboard should
surely be
> just that. No sequencer, simply a touch sensitive board. It is
then up to
> the individual to incorporate it as they see fit. The maq is
cracking
> sequencer, as is the a155, as I understand are AS and the like.
Let doepfer
> use the time to improve the ******werk sequencers. They have the
potential
> to be the most elaborate of all hardware/analogue style sequencers
ever. My
> main gripe with the schaltwerk is the inability to write patterns
on the fly
> longer than 16 notes. (Without pasting it over to a new pattern)
Roland
> managed it with the TR909 and that was some time ago and until the
> schaltwerk is capable of achieving immediate writing of notes on a
pattern
> of greater than 16.
>
> Regards
> To all
>
> Tris
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: david.salter@r... [mailto:david.salter@r...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:11 PM
> To: Doepfer_a100@y...
> Subject: Re: 1 A little about that touch keyboard
>
>
> I agree that if a sequencer is to be incorporated into the touch
keyboard it
> has to be fully integrated.
>
> The point that has been made by some people, myself included is
that it can
> be an add on and it would have to offer more than a155 (just as you
> intimate).
>
> David
>
>
>
> bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@ To:
> Doepfer_a100@y...
> yahoo.com> cc:
> Subject: Re:
> 1 A little about that touch keyboard
> 27/02/2002 13:47 Header: Internal
Use Only
> Please respond to
> Doepfer_a100
>
>
>
>
>
> ooooooo.......don't you understand that this sequencer
> NEEDS to be with the sensor keyboard the keys of the
> keyboard are used for activating steps/changing
> seq.lenght on the fly!!!so,it is nessessary to have a
> touch-sensor keyboard/sequencer!!!!!!!!!
> synthfreak
>
> --- davevosh@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 2/26/2002 12:12:07 PM Eastern
> > Standard Time,
> > andreas.k.lindholm@t... writes:
> >
> >
> > > If the touch keyboard would amount to anything
> > good I would say that it
> > > should either exclude all sequencer functions or
> > they should be very
> > > carefully thought out. There is as far as I
> > understand it no point in adding
> > > something that if very limited when there are
> > several other solutions to do
> > > it better.
> >
> >
> >
> > hello !
> > i must agree here wholeheartedly ! better a
> > superior touch kybd / controller
> > than a mediocre sequencer. after the kybd is
> > completed, take a second look a
> > sequencing and envelope generation using something
> > still visionary, even
> > after all these years, like the old buchla multiple
> > arbitrary random function
> > generator as a conceptual starting point.
> > let each module "be what it is" and avoid "creeping
> > feature-itis" ..........
> > best,
> > dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
> synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> athens-greece
> 1 group owner-moderator
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
>
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@y...
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------- ---
> Visit our Internet site at http://www.reuters.com
>
> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual
> sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be
> the views of Reuters Ltd.
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
< http://rd.yahoo.com/M=217097.1902236.3397169.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17
050321
> 44:HM/A=960173/R=0/* http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click
bfmid=29150849&site
> id=39249818&bfpage=moneyyahoo4>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@y...
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> < http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > .
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]