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> 1. Re: a196 pll patch examples
> From: "thomasborax"
> < thomasborax@... >
> 2. Re: a196 pll patch examples
> From: "selfoscillate"
> < synaptic_music@... >
> 3. Re: Hard time with MCV24 + KORG MS-20
> From: "sahkopostiosoite"
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> 5. Re: Re: Hard time with MCV24 + KORG MS-20
> From: Kim Johnsson < kim.johnsson@... >
> 6. Re: Hard time with MCV24 + KORG MS-20
> From: "selfoscillate"
> < synaptic_music@... >
> 7. A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency Shifter
> From: "lfosynth2000"
> < lfosynth2000@... >
> 8. AW: Re: a196 pll patch examples
> From: "Dieter Doepfer"
> < hardware@... >
> 9. Re: a196 pll patch examples
> From: "selfoscillate"
> < synaptic_music@... >
> 10. RE: A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency
> Shifter
> From: "n keller" < nirokesan@... >
> 11. Re: A-126 Voltage Controlled Frequency
> Shifter
> From: "selfoscillate"
> < synaptic_music@... >
> 12. Re: Re: Hard time with MCV24 + KORG MS-20
> From: Kim Johnsson < kim.johnsson@... >
> 13. Re: Re: Hard time with MCV24 + KORG MS-20
> From: Florian Anwander
> < Florian.Anwander@... >
> 14. Re: Re: Hard time with MCV24 + KORG MS-20
> From: Bakis Sirros
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> 15. Re: Hard time with MCV24 + KORG MS-20
> From: "selfoscillate"
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 22:04:34 -0000
> From: "thomasborax" < thomasborax@... >
> Subject: Re: a196 pll patch examples
>
> hi-
> thank you for the patch posts. some very nice ideas
> about the PLL.
> i have a question about example 6 however. in this
> example you
> state that the patch employs a "fair amount of a196
> low pass
> filtering." perhaps i'm not understanding the
> normalizing scheme of
> the module. haven't you bypassed the filter entirely
> in this patch
> in your example 4 you say that you're using the a171
> instead of the
> a196 built-in lpf. in this example 4 patch you have
> phase comp out
> going through it's processing loop then into the
> a196vco input,
> which is also what happens in example 6...except
> that you state that
> you're using the a196 on board filter this time.
> i guess my question is, to your knowledge, is the
> a196 normalized so
> that the input/output jacks break the internal loop
> the one jack
> that obviously does not break the loop is the vco
> out, which must
> necessarily go to the phase comp as well as further
> down the signal
> chain.
>
> the reason i ask is because, although i've had some
> incredible
> results from using my PLL, i find that it takes a
> lot of
> experimenting to get interesting results (to me at
> least.) perhaps
> i could use insight into how the module is
> normalized. it's not
> clear to me from the pdf manual. pardon me if i'm
> being dense about
> it.
> -tom
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "selfoscillate"
>
> <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> >
> > hello,
> >
> > a few quite simple a196 patch examples:
> >
> > (sorry, this is a long post...)
> >
> > in the following examples the same 8-note sequence
> is
> > repeated over and over (coming from an a155 +
> a156).
> > each note also generates a trigger signal (a155).
> > this trigger starts an adsr with each note, which
> > opens the final vca (a131). beware, the sound is
> > a bit harsh sometimes ;-)
> >
> > also no live tweaking in these examples.
> >
> >
> > 1.
> > the first file is the pure square output of an
> a110,
> > which plays the sequence. this will be the source
> > for the a196 in all examples.
> >
> >
>

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a196-a110source.mp3

> > filesize: 73 kb
> >
> > patch details:
> > pitch cv --> a110(a) cv1 input
> > a110(a) square --> a131 signal in (to recorder)
> >
> >
> > 2.
> > next you hear the a196 vco output, when the
> > a110 squarewave is fed into input 2 of the a196.
> >
> >
>

http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a196-neutral.mp3

> > filesize: 73 kb
> >
> > patch details:
> > pitch cv --> a110(a) cv1 input
> > a110(a) square --> a196 phase comp Input 2
> > a196 vco output --> a131 signal in (to recorder)
> >
> > a196 settings:
> > offs = 5 ; range = mid ; type = 3 ; lowpass = 0
> >
> >
> > now, what can we do to turn this upside down
> >
> >
> > 3.
> > this one uses another a110 at the a196 input 1,
> > which plays the same sequence 1 octave higher.
> > notice the variations, they are generated because
> > of a slight detune between both vco's.
> >
> >
> http://www.selfoscillate.de/a100files/a196-spank.mp3
> > filesize: 1084 kb
> >
> > patch details:
> > pitch cv --> a110(a) cv1 input
> > pitch cv --> a110(b) cv1 input
> > a110(a) square --> a196 phase comp Input 2
> > a110(b) square --> a196 phase comp Input 1
> > a196 vco output --> a131 signal in (to recorder)
> >
> > a196 settings:
> > offs = 5 ; range = mid ; type = 3 ; lowpass = 0
> >
> > a110(b) + 1 octave up
> >
> >
> > 4.
> > now the second a110 is removed from the a196 input
> 1.
> > the a196 vco output is now fed back into the
> cv-input
> > of the first a110. an a171, modulated by the
> pitch-cv,
> > replaces the built-in a196 lowpass filter. listen
> to
> > the rhythmic variations, these are all created by
> the
>

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