hello tom,

the only thing i can say is that in all cases the
lpf frequency pot alters the signal, no matter if
the lowpass is patched in or out of the chain.
but i can't tell you why, or what exactly is happening.
dieter pointed out that the phase comp output is not
filtered, but somehow the lpf pot is still doing something,
even when the lpf is bypassed.

dieter, maybe you can shed some light on this please

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "thomasborax" <thomasborax@y...>
wrote:

> hi gentlemen-
> i played a gig last night, using my suitcase, so i was not able to
> check my PLL (not part of my patch)to determine for sure the
> normalling scheme for myself. and now i'm running out of my house

to

> work.
> so, ingo, are you saying that indeed a loop starting and the phase
> comp out and ending at the vco in does NOT bypass the lpf
> --tom
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "Dieter Doepfer"

<hardware@d...>

> wrote:
> > Ingo,
> >
> > thank you for the information. We will correct the manual asap.
> >
> > Dieter
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com ]Im Auftrag von

selfoscillate

> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2005 07:52
> > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Betreff: 1 Re: a196 pll patch examples
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hello dieter,
> > >
> > > you are right, i apologize for the false information.
> > > the a196 front panel is absolutely correct.
> > > but i have a good excuse ;-)
> > >
> > > a few days ago i discovered that the lowpass frequency
> > > knob is still altering the signal output of the pll,
> > > even when the phase comp output is connected directly
> > > to the cv input of the vco part. this was surprising,
> > > i assumed that the lowpass part would be completely
> > > bypassed in this case. then the question about the
> > > description of my patch examples came up. while in the
> > > office, i checked the user manual about it and posted
> > > my "false information". and that's the problem, the
> > > user manual is wrong. please check section 3 (overview),
> > > outputs 5 and 6 are swapped there (on both english and
> > > german versions).
> > >
> > > best wishes
> > >
> > > ingo