Hello!

I think we should respect the choice of Diether. Diether respects other
synth manufacturers and that's great!
Of course I would love to see a cheap VCO with ultimate power from europe,
but not for all costs (synth manufacturer war). Doepfer finally is getting
rid of the stealing-from-diy-modules manufacturer, copying existing
modules from other sellers isn't a very good thing to do.
I've ordered a PLAN B VCO and I'm living in Europe (The Netherlands) A
good VCO is worth more than 300 euro, so I really don't mind.
The PLAN B isn't a copy of the original. Peter was also doubting about
selling this VCO. He didn't want to disrespect Doepfer and Buchla:

"What I don't want is to feel I'll have to duck down a hall if I ever see
Don Buchla coming the opposite direction and I put a lot of effort into it
so I won't have to!"

http://www.buzzclick-music.com/model_15.html

What I really like about Doepfer is the extreme range of modules with it's
own sound / functions, not the modules which clone other modulars.

Peter: Did you contact MusicHouse in the netherlands or Bluebay (works
together with macbeth) in belgium They are great.

And about the digital buchla 200e... I think digital components don't
necessarily mean bad components. I hope Diether will make some digital
modules which are more or less programmable. (like the PSIM) I've already
read something about that from diether and I will hope he will go on with
that together with the analogue modules which he's already making! :)

Best regards,
JohnnyBusca
http://www.tonyblack.org

> Message: 22
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:48:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bakis Sirros < synth_freak_2000@... >
> Subject: Re: 259 vco toot toot
>
> hello peter,
> i know and really believe that your plan B vco is a
> great sounding module. but for me, here in greece,
> your modules are also not an option. the custom duties
> for US products, as far as i know, will be huge
> (something like 50% extra!). so, your vco will cost me
> more than 300 euros, not counting big shipping costs!
> so, i would really prefer a european 259 vco doepfer
> a100 module.
> bakis.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- "(i think you can figure that out)"
> < peter@... > wrote:
>
>> Guys -
>>
>> I very rarely toot my own horn, but it you guys want
>> a 259, get a
>> Plan B VCO and Dieter's Wave Multiplier, the A-137.
>> If you want
>> the LFO, add a A-147 to that stack. You will get
>> all of the sound
>> and 95% of the functionality.
>>
>> The original 259 is nothing more than a 258 with a
>> bunch of
>> wave shaping and an LFO added. One of its pirmary
>> features
>> which I don't think is of value to most nowdays is
>> the 259 was
>> also computer controllable via the Buchla 300.
>>
>> Outside of the wave morphing, which IS different,
>> the Plan B
>> circuitry emulates the 258 sonically in the areas
>> that count - the
>> triangle core, the expo FM, the freq response of the
>> two main vc
>> inputs and the sound of the sine wave are pretty
>> much identical.
>>
>> Dieter's wave multiplier does wave folding in much
>> the same
>> manner as the 259s waveshapers did, although Don
>> used
>> terms like odd and even harmonics instead of square
>> and saw.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> - P
>>
>>
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:14:04 -0000
> From: "(i think you can figure that out)" < peter@... >
> Subject: Re: 259 vco toot toot
>
> I may be able to help (considering I'm Greek, it's the least I can
> do). I've been speaking to a person in Europe who has
> expressed interest in selling these products direct.
>
> Yassou, pedimou!
>
> - P
>
>