Not to worry. However, isn't it ironic that we are now discussing
ways to use an analog modular to model a digital model of an analog
modular Can you say that five times really fast

SHM

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "selfoscillate"
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:

>
> yes right, the blacet is switchable only.
> i haven't read the email properly.
> i just came out of vacation and had to read
> around 200 emails, sorry ;-)
>
> best wishes
>
> ingo
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "shm1400" <shm14@h...> wrote:
> > I just looked at the Blacet site, and it doesn't look like the
> > Klangwerk has a "ring-am-pass" control. But it does have a

switch

> > to make it DC coupled, so it could be used in place of the PAIA

in

> > my original example.
> > Too bad, since the Blacet could certainly be squeezed into a
> Doepfer-
> > style face plate. Not a viable option with the Buchla or Serge.
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "selfoscillate"
> > <synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > the blacet klangwerk
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "shm1400" <shm14@h...>

wrote:

> > > > Just remembered, the Buchla 285 balanced modulator does

this.

> > Any
> > > > others
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "shm1400" <shm14@h...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > By the way, I forgot to mention that my example below
> requires
> > a
> > > > DC
> > > > > coupled ring modulator, so it will not work with the A114,
> > though
> > > > it
> > > > > works with a PAIA 9710. It might also work with the

Doepfer

> A-
> > > 133
> > > > > Polarizer, though I don't have this module yet and haven't
> > tried
> > > > > it. If anybody has a 133 one and feels like trying the
> patch,
> > > > > please let me know if it works.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "shm1400"

<shm14@h...>

> > wrote:
> > > > > > The recent poll on the Nord Modular style clocked random
> > > > generator
> > > > > > got me thinking about the Nord Modular's ring

modulator.

> It
> > > has
> > > > > an
> > > > > > additional control that varies the modulation from ring

to

> > AM
> > > to
> > > > > > none, which can also be "voltage" controlled. This is
> > > extremely
> > > > > > useful and I don't know of an analog ring modulator that
> > does
> > > > this
> > > > > > out of the box.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been trying to do something similar using

existing

> > > > > modules.
> > > > > > It is my understanding that ring modulation differs from

AM

> > in
> > > > > that
> > > > > > the carrier is inverted when the modulator is negative.
> > Also,
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Nord, when the control is zeroed and there is no
> modulation,
> > it
> > > > > > simply passes the carrier unaltered.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, to model the nord's ring modulator, I have started

by

> > > adding
> > > > > an
> > > > > > offset to the modulator so that it is all positive (or,
> > better,
> > > > > > negative), then attenuating the signal with a VCA (this
> > > > > attenuation
> > > > > > is the "ring to am to nothing" control) then adding

another

> > > > offset
> > > > > > to make the modulator AC again when the VCA is full

open,

> > and
> > > > > > sending that signal to the ring modulator's modulator

input.

> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this correct Does anybody have an easier way of
> > > > accomplishing
> > > > > > this same end Does anybody know of an analog ring
> > modulator
> > > > that
> > > > > > does this without outboard stuff Hey, could this be an
> > idea
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > new module