hello ringmod,
many thanks for your info!
i,too,beleive that the doepfer TKB should have all the
features that are proposed in the TKB webpage,at
least.dieter should NOT subtract features,only ADD,if
possible.and i agree that touch plates are great!MIDI
is great too!the TKB can have cv/gate outs and midi
out.what's the problem with that
doepfer,please,give us the TKB!
bakis.



--- ringmod45 < ringmod45@... > wrote:

>
> Hi Bakis and Mr Doepfer,
>
> The proposed TKB is bound for failure, feature and
> function wise,
> idealistically speaking. Not every feature, one
> wants, will be able
> to be implemented.
>
> Let's get the basics straight. First, the proposed
> Doepfer TKB is
> modelled after the two of the most sought after and
> expressive
> analogue controllers out there, the Buchla 219 Touch
> Keyboard and the
> Serge TKB. Here are the url's;
>
>

http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/219-keyboard.html

>
> http://www.scampers.com/EGRES/wiz_seq.htm
>
> These are features and functions the proposed
> Doepfer TKB is based
> upon. This the foundation from which to build upon
> and not to
> subtract from. Mr. Doepfer and Company have done a
> Good Job so far,
> it just needs to be tweaked some more.
>
> The pressure voltage, derived by
> capacitance-activated touch plates
> or keys, is the most natural and expressive control
> in electrical
> terms. It is very similar to playing a string
> instrument. It is
> direct and immediate, finger to touch plate, unlike
> an organ manual,
> finger to plastic key, plastic key to trigger
> contact.
>
> The whole point of the proposed Doepfer TKB is bring
> elements of the
> above mentioned controllers and not to have a organ
> style manual
> dictate how it should be or perform. There are very
> few of these
> controllers around for people to make remarks or
> opine ideas on how
> they should be built, so it should be modelled from
> the originals
> with input from people who have used and understand
> them.
>
> The electronics of the Buchla 219 were then adapted
> to an organ style
> manual. Here is the url,
>
> http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/keys-23X.html
>

http://www.buchla.com/historical/b200/images/237-large.jpeg

>
> Since we live in the microprocessor age, it is only
> feasible and
> logical to have midi onboard. Building the proposed
> Doepfer TKB,
> Analogue style, would be cost prohibitive. It should
> be modular in
> its approach to allow for expansion of I/O and
> sequencer functions
> and not the other way around.
>
> To hear a touch keyboard in action, please check
> some of Charles
> Cohen's mp3's to give you an idea. Here is the url,
>
> http://phobos.serve.com/charles_cohen/ D=A
>
> Live_at_the_Gathering_19981212 - - track 2 and 3 are
> pretty good
> indications of the Buchla sound and touchplates.
>
> Regards,
> RM
>
>
> > --- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@d...> wrote:
> > > From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@d...>
> > > To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@y...>
> > > Subject: Please forward ...
> > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:50:54 +0100
> > >
> > >
> > > > Maybe its because the current version of the
> TKB
> > > received an
> > > > unenthusiastic response at trade shows. I
> still
> > > wonder if the
> > > > keyboard appearance might have caused
> confusion:
> > > it may have looked
> > > > to many like a cheap alternative to a real
> > > keyboard.
> > >
> > > This is not the main reason. Our biggest problem
> -
> > > as mentioned several
> > > times - are the many different, partly even
> > > contradictory suggestions (e.g.
> > > number of potentiometer rows, MIDI features,
> > > analog/digital sequencer
> > > features, mono/polyphony, plates like a "normal"
> > > keyboard or simply equal
> > > shaped plates and so on ....).
> > > In contrast to other projects we see no clear
> line
> > > which features (or even
> > > non-features, e.g. we received messages from
> several
> > > customers that they
> > > will not buy the TKB if it will include MIDI or
> if
> > > it will look like a
> > > normal keyboard or if it will include a digital
> > > sequencer or ...).
>
>
> > > > > Best wishes
> > > Dieter Doepfer
> > >
>
>

=====
Bakis Sirros
Parallel Worlds / Polariton
Athens-Greece
1 group owner
http://www.rubber.gr
http://www.ward12.com

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