--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "ilanode" <techmeier@w...> wrote:

> Wondering wether it makes sense to indicate tones and semitones in
> the layout of the TKB or if it is just confusing bcs the actual

tunig

> can (and usually will ) be totally different. The latter might be

the

> reason why - to my knowledge - both Serge's and Buchla's TKBs have
> their plates simply side by side.

You can have both it both ways. the Buchla 217 touch keyboard had 17
touch plates vertical across the keyoard and 4 touch plates to use as
control clusters. The beauty of this design is that it had two sets
of output for the 17 touch plates, one for the equal interval of the
17 touch plates and one for the tuning knobs above each key.

So in a two oscillator patch you could use the base interval and then
use the tuning knob to whatever note you wanted. Now if you wanted
polyphony, you used the 246 Sequential voltage source. Since the 246
had VC stage or address selection, with one key you could have a five
note chord, you just tuned the four other knobs on the 246.

Brilliant Stuff. I have uploaded this info under Touch Keyboards in
the files section. A lot of the features that I used for the TKB
poll, if you want to have more info please revisit the poll.

the later Buchla touch keyboard used the organ style keys and the
touch plates laid out chromatically.

The major point in having touch plates is the pressure output to use
it as a control source. It has to be responsive in order to justify
building them in the first place. It would be nice to have a little
hole on the proposed tkb to allow access to a trim pot to control
level of response of the pressure output for the touch plates.

The touch plates are ment for more responsive playing, so you have
too include the pressure control in your patches for it to behave
responsively.

So if someone at a trade show doesn't like or understand the touch
plates, because he has been a mechanical organ style player, he will
state the obvious. But if that person takes the time to learn the
subtleties of touch plates, that person may appreciate once he learns
how to use touch plates.

RM

>
> I'm looking very much forward to the TKB but most likely will never
> scale it like an ordinary keyboard thus I prefer an appearance that
> don't suggest a certain tuning. Regards Ilanode
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi florian,
> > again,i beleive that the group of people that want a
> > standard keyboard controller for their a100, will get
> > what they want with the standard keyboard controller
> > that doepfer will release in the future!so,no problem.
> > bakis.
> >
> >
> > --- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi shm
> > >
> > > > However, Mr. Doepfer's experience at trade shows
> > > indicates that the
> > > > keyboard-like appearance may lead to confusion
> > > about the intended
> > > > application of the TKB, and so to dispoointment
> > > about its lack of
> > > > suitability as an organ keyboard. Maybe this
> > > should be changed What
> > > > do people think
> > > I think this shows the difference between what
> > > attracts people and the
> > > difference between how is the peoples access to
> > > something.
> > >
> > > The one person does not want to run with the crowd
> > > and does not like to go
> > > to a fair and the same person likes more
> > > experimental or new access to
> > > electronic music gear.
> > >
> > > Another person likes to meet a lot of similar
> > > thinking people, so this
> > > person likes a fair very much, and again this other
> > > person may be a more
> > > traditional piano orientated musician.
> > >
> > >
> > > The result for Doepfer is: They have to obey the
> > > desires of both types of
> > > customers. If now there is a device like the TKB
> > > there will be always a
> > > group of customers, which complains about the
> > > unusablilty of this device.
> > > So the question for the producer is, whether this
> > > negative customer
> > > response has a bigger impact on the business than
> > > the success at the
> > > perhaps smaller group of customers who like an
> > > experimental device like the
> > > TKB.
> > >
> > > I would not want to take this decision.
> > >
> > > Florian
> > >
> >
> >
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