John,

I too own the Sy02 and love it, I used to own an MS20 and this filter is
so close it's scary.

If Doepfer produce their own clone I will not buy it (why when I have it
already).

I agree also with your statement regarding different modules. The A100
range is fantastic in it's diversity. While other manufactures are
producing mostly standard modules, Doepfer are offering modules that
allow far more lateral thinking towards sound design. It's this attitude
that made companies like Buchla and Serge popular with the more
innovative synthesis's.

So Dieter, please concentrate on the different, the odd and if you go
down the route of making available modules from the past (I love it when
you do) look at those that offer something outside the norm.

I still want to see a "source of uncertainty" and a VCO that is truly
different, I.e. something looking like the filter bank in looks but each
control attenuates a sine wave of different frequencies for additive
creation, or an envelope that not only has breakpoints but is multistage
with the ability to set loop points (I use my A155's for this at the
moment), or how about ...... the list goes on.

Regards



David Salter
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-----Original Message-----
From: jmaddocks1975 [mailto: jmaddocks1975@... ]
Sent: 24 March 2003 17:40
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: 1 another filter


Hi,
The Korg MS20 filter is easily one of my favourites, you can
recognise it anywhere. That is the reason I bought the Analogue
Solutions SY02 (and an MS10), this filter is so close to the
korg.

Dieter has mentioned a few times that he doesn't see the point
in
making modules that are being made by other companies, AS
already
make it. My opinion is don't waste time and money making this
filter
when you could be making something new like the A107 or chaos
module. I don't think I'll buy one even if you do put new CV
inputs
on it, but probably everyone else will and be your best selling
module :-D

People have asked before and I am now agreeing with them, how
about
a new VCO
Doepfer have about 14 filters and only 2 VCO's, one of which is
close to extinction (a111).

What about a new style ADSR, like the korgs have 'Break Point'
and 'slope' on their old ones.


I'm sure this will cause a discussion :-D

John.







--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "selfoscillate"
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:

>
> hello bakis,
>
> maybe dieter should also purchase an
> analogue solutions sy02 filter for comparison
> and take a look at their efforts. they did
> really well with the sy02, but dieter can sure
> make some improvements like vc of resonance and
> the rest of those nasty things you already
> mentioned below.
>
> there is another filter i would appreciate, because
> it is totally unavailable. i'm speaking of the vintage
> yamaha multimode filters. they are a bit weak, but
> very creamy and soft. the sound is significantly
> different compared with the cem3320 based filters.
> the yamaha is (like the korg) made with custom chips.
> the slope is 12db for highpass and lowpass and
> 6db for the bandpass. a long time ago i owned an
> yamaha cs20m and i can still remember those creamy
> sweeps. but i sold the cm20m because the rest was crap.
>
> best wishes
>
> self oscillate
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Dieter Doepfer
> > > To: Bakis Sirros
> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:36 PM
> > > Subject: AW: new filter module on the way
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Bakis Sirros [mailto:syrros@a...]
> > > Gesendet am: Montag, 24. Marz 2003 13:09
> > > An: Dieter Doepfer
> > > Betreff: new filter module on the way
> > >
> > > BAKIS:hello dieter,
> > > what do i see in the a100 modules page a new
> > > (A101) ms20 filter module
> > > some suggestions:of course,individual inputs and
> > > outputs for the HPF and the LPF,and,also,individual
> > > inputs for Fcut off and Q for both
> > > filters!additional options,goodies would be great!as
> > > i'm always saying that is better to expand an
> > > existing design than to reproduce it....
> > > any more news please.....
> > > DOEPFER:I met a man at the NAMM who told more about
> > the
> > > internal details of the MS10/20 filters. From the
> > > MS10/20 schematic one cannot see details concering
> > > the filter circuit as there is a Korg custom made
> > > chip used (KORG35). We are planning to built a
> > > prototype of the filter and compare it to the MS20
> > > filter (we have a MS20 in the company). As soon as
> > > this is finished we will discuss the details
> > > (individual audio inputs, control inputs and
> > > controls for both filters). News will follow as soon
> > > as we receive the first results.
> > > BAKIS:where are the TKB and a154 polls
> > > DOEPFER:Too busy at the moment ..... A-105 (SSM
> > filter)
> > > design is now finished. The A-105 will be
> > > manufactured with the next production series
> > > (probably May 2003). As soon as we receive the
> > > result of your A-107 poll this will follow and then
> > > A-154, TKB and "normal" CV/Gate keyboard.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Dieter Doepfer
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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