I tend to think that use of military force for defence is something
different from use for an aggresive offencive war (as in this case).
It has begun, so shame on the world.

Let's stop this discussion before it gets out of hand like it almost
did last time. People don't have to agree, that's democracy as far as
I am concerned.

Peace!

Patrick

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> I fully agree with you about politicians They, for the most part,
> are worthless cockroaches.
>
> You site all the negative aspects of the military, and seem to
think
> that no soldier does anything but rape and plunder. What you
ignore
> is that an opposing military force stopped said mayhem. Does it
also
> make that military force immoral
>
> With all due respect, I pray you two never find your respective
> countries in desperate need of the military.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hey andreas,i agree 100%!
> > bakis.
> >
> >
> > --- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@t...>
> > wrote:
> > > Regarding supporting troops...
> > >
> > > I don't support any kind of troops(theirs, yours and
> > > "ours") and I don't buy
> > > that crap excuse "I only did my job". The law forced
> > > me to enlist at a time
> > > and I questioned and disobeyed all orders that I
> > > found offensive such as "if
> > > they don't stop when entering a secure zone -
> > > shoot". Beautiful as a cold
> > > rock in february may be I certainly don't find it
> > > worth even one life. I got
> > > the highest praise possible from a general. He told
> > > me that I never could
> > > take even the simplest order without questioning and
> > > thus must be considered
> > > totally unfit for military service. I wish he had
> > > given me that in print
> > > cause I am very proud of that "medal" ;)
> > >
> > > That lame excuse has been used since the stone-age
> > > and it was bad then, it
> > > was bad when Romans raped their victims, it was bad
> > > when the Vikings raped
> > > women all over, it was when the Spanish inquistion
> > > tortured people in the
> > > name of God, it was bad when the Knights of England
> > > were crusading in the
> > > middle east, it was bad when the Nazis tortured the
> > > jews, it was bad when
> > > the Us troops dropped napalm on screaming children
> > > in Vietnam, it was bad
> > > when Saddam gassed the Kurds in Iraq, it was bad
> > > when soldiers in Jugoslavia
> > > raped women on both sides and it will be bad when
> > > Us...
> > >
> > > The only guys I really admire at this time is the
> > > American girl that got run
> > > over by a demolishion truck truck in Gaza last week
> > > and the dozen Swedes
> > > that has gone to Iraq to act as human shields. I
> > > suppose there are people
> > > from other countries doing the same but the news
> > > here has only shown the
> > > Swedes that flew off yesterday. That is brave!
> > > Martyrs of today.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > OFF TOPIC, COMMENTS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >
> > > > Regarding troops and the people that stick them in
> > > places they shouldn't
> > > be...
> > > >
> > > > I support our troops, I don't support the
> > > president nor do I trust his
> > > extremely questionable motives behind the action.
> > > > But bottom line is those kids are doing their job
> > > and they have about as
> > > much choice in where they go and it seems you and
> > > > I had on who would end up in the White House.
> > > >
> > > > I know people over in the region on both sides of
> > > this situation, I wish
> > > them all well.
> > > > I wish all of us well as we seem to have lost
> > > control of the direction of
> > > our country for the moment.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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