On 3 Jun 2013, at 15:25, analogmonster@... wrote:

> I think saying abletons midi is unstable is a little unfair. Can be unstable is better. I have had a number of issues over time that have affected it, i also have had other timing issues that i thought was down to midi. To be honest most of the issues are user error- Driver issues, too high audio latency and simply not setting up the Midi settings correctly have all caused problems for me. Oh and in the old days, cracked software added to the instabilities (i pay for everything now).I now have around 25 different midi devices (obviously i never use all at once) that i use trouble free with ableton.
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I'm presuming, as there's no install CD, that the Dark Time is relying on the built in OS X general purpose drivers.

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> From what you have described im going to assume you were trying to run the dt as a slave to abletons master clock, but what about trying it the other way round In abletons midi settings, find the dt midi in port and turn on track, sync and remote. If you expand the midi input you get extra sync settings like sync type and clock sync delay, you may need to play with these to get it to sync well.
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Ah - genius! I've bought a couple of midi cables, plugged it into the Maschine's midi interface and added 40ms of early to it. Wicked. Right - let the fun begin!

(God knows why it needs 40ms of early. I suppose that's to compensate for the audio that might be coming out of a synth through a mixer with all the plugin delay stuff. But that means I may have to adjust the delay whenever I add a long latency plugin...argh!)

> Ms audio out to clock in idea doesnt need expert sleepers to make it work, just a standard audio out signal would do (my own es jacks are too precious for something as basic as a clock pulse). You want to have an audio sample which is basically nothing but a single cycle of a square wave, because the important part is the transition between low and high. You want a single cycle to occur 24 times every quarter note, or 96 times a bar. Ive not done it, but im guessing that making it once for one tempo and warping it to another tempo using the repitch algorithm would work so its not too inconvinient.
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I've already got the expert sleeper bit though, so that's nice and easy :)

Thanks for the help everyone.

J.



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