i agree with James, and i repeat that the timing i get from the gates from my midi-cv interface is good enough for me. never had problems with it. OF COURSE, it depends on the midi chain. plus, i use ableton live and i always check and correct any timing i do not like, after the audio has been recorded. and i do not have the midi-cv interface right after the midi out of my computer midi interface... actually, i have it (MCV24) after some midi thru-ins :D

 
Bakis


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From: James Husted < james.husted@... >
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: 1 A-190-2 as clock



 
Whenever I hear talk about "super tight clocking" and "MIDI timing errors" I am always amazed. I can't but think of live music and the fact that every live band you have EVER seen has had more timing error between players than probably any you have ever heard in MIDI. I know there is a want for timing perfection (to me a robotic perfection) but I often see a obsession to a perfection that it seems more often than not only the obsessor ever hears. Music doesn't need to be that perfect to me.

But if you want that level of perfection,it seems your only option is to get Expert Sleepers Silent way or some other DAW to clock solution. The more complex the MIDI stream is the more delay you will get between events - the nature of a slower serial protocol.
-J

On May 3, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Os < os@... > wrote:

> Hi,
>
> it should be mentioned that the tightness of the sync from this method is
> at the mercy of the tightness of the MIDI interface. Some MIDI interfaces
> have appalling timing.
>
> The tightest sync comes from using the audio output of the DAW directly as
> a clock.
>
>
> cheers,
> os.
>
>
>
> On 3 May 2013 09:50, Bakis Sirros < synth_freak_2000@... > wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> my friend Ingo, and then me, are doing this for years. its the tighter
>> sync you can get.
>>
>> yes, set midi clips with 16th notes and use the gate out of any midi-cv
>> interface as clock signal to sync your analog sequencer.
>>
>> if you have a second midi-cv channel, you can do the same technique and
>> use the gate (coming from the midi notes from the midi-cv interface) of
>> that channel, as a reset signal for your analog modules.
>>
>> so, you can have a clock that is as low or high rate as you want and a
>> reset signal that can occur whenever you want.
>>
>>
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>> From: re_qu < renato.quaroni@... >
>> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 11:00 AM
>> Subject: 1 A-190-2 as clock
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm running ableton 8 right now. I understand that it's midi sync has some
>> issues in terms of keeping a tight clock.
>>
>> but i heard rumours that version 9 has improved...
>>
>> Assuming it hasn't... the clock from the A-190-1, synced by live 8 (or
>> 9 ), is not going to be much use to me.
>>
>> but i had heard of a work around; that essentially setting up a midi clip
>> with midi on each beat and then using the CV data to clock is much more
>> reliable and keeps tight.
>>
>> can anyone confirm or deny then i wouldn't need the A-190-1 and could get
>> the A-190-2, obviously cheaper and using less HP.
>>
>> thanks,
>> renato
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