Thanks for the great info, i'll keep my big juno 60
cheers
ric

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , zaum <zaum@...> wrote:
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> > > Take a look at the Quantimator. http://www.toppobrillo.com/quantimator.html It
> > > can do chords and arpeggios.
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> > Hi Does anyone have the A156 dual quantizer
> > Can it makes arpeggios like juno 60 or better
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> The A156 does not have an arpeggiator, it's a only a pair of quantitizers. The A-190-1 has MIDI going in. Since the MIDI can be polyphonic, software can pull an arpeggiated mono CV from it. That's going on in the MIDI to CV module though it doesn't have all the features some arpeggiators offer.
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> I'm not convinced the Quantimator is actually an arpeggiator at all. I don't have one so I don't know for sure but I think I'd call it a Quantitized Analog Shift Register. The difference is how it's played. To me you play chords into an arpeggiator, this seems to remember the current and last 2 mono notes played. Correct Not that it isn't cool but it's a new hybrid twist, not a proper arpeggiator though the output might resemble one to a degree.
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> Traditionally an arpeggiator starts with a polyphonic keyboard and pulls a clocked stream of notes from the polyphonic info. They were hardly ever on modular systems because few started with a poly keyboard and then added the circuitry for one (Roland's poly keyboard for the 100M modular was a vintage exception). In other words it's not something traditionally in a modular module, it's re-interpreting a scanned (poly) keyboard connected to it.
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> An analog shift register stores the last monophonic note played in a new register (location). It's like a S&H in that it grabs and holds a current voltage value but more complicated in that it remembers a prior voltage too and several ASRs can be chained to remember several prior voltages. As a new voltage is grabbed the old ones shift outputs.
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> As I said, maybe I don't have a quantimator, but I don't see how you could get the same functionality without a polyphonic input . Though I guess you could play something with single keys one at a time on a poly keyboard in latch mode that are subsequently arpeggiated. I mention that because maybe latch input arpeggiation isn't far functionally from this module's input, but still, this scenario is still re-processing a poly keyboard and to answer your question the input doesn't seem like it's similar to a Juno 60.
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> Actually for many years I thought I was hearing arpeggiation on 1970s recordings (I think the first commercial keyboard with an arpeggiator was 1978). What it turns out I was hearing was a sequencer being transposed live by keyboard CV. That technique was not the same as an arpeggiator either but is worth keeping in mind if you don't have one, though in the age of MIDI to CV a software arpeggiator is the easiest way to go imho.
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