I would omit the A116 seeing the other units you are getting.
The A137-1 and the A136 run 5 circles around the A116 ;-)
I used to own al three but ended up not using the A116, I sold it in the
end.
In your case I would rather buy a ring modulator and a nice VCO with it.
Or if you want to keep it cheap go for an an a143-9 which is theory an LFO
but in practice a very fine VCO to use alongside a ringmodulator to mess
signals!


grzt

Ernst

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:30 PM, York Luethje < ybl@... > wrote:

>
>
> Hi,
>
> You had some questions about modules. The A-160 (clock) divider takes a
> clock signal (from a sequencer or a Midi-> CV converter) and creates
> rhythmic divisions, such as �, 1/8 and so on. This way you can synchronise
> a
> voltage controlled LFO to your master clock, for example.
>
> The A-116 VC waveform processor takes an input waveform and mangles it
> through two parameters, clipping and symmetry, which are both under voltage
> control. Serious sound destruction can be had.
>
> Regarding logarithmic vs. linear characteristics: You have two types of
> signals in a (normal) modular system, linear and logarithmic. Control
> voltages conform to linear, audio to logarithmic. Therefore a logarithmic
> VCA is better suited for audio duties. Mind you, you are by no means
> required to use it that way.
>
> The A-113 sub harmonic generator is part of Doepfer�s Trautonium project
> where they recreated the functionality of the pioneer electronic instrument
> �Trautonium� (google Oscar Sala) and recreated it in a modular system.
> Pretty awesome, if you ask me. The other module in that range is the A-104
> Trautonium formant filter. The A-113 takes a square wave (from an A-110 for
> instance) and generates 4 independent lower frequency square waves. I am
> not
> sure if this module will suit your need. The ratio of the individual square
> waves is not under voltage control. On the other hand, it gives you some
> very serious low end potential. But you need a square wave to start with.
>
> I second what David said about envelopes and VCA�s, can�t have enough of
> them. Also, consider a joy stick (A-174). Two independent control voltages
> under manual control.
>
> York
>
> _____
>
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>] Im
> Auftrag von doof_per
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 07:29
>
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> Betreff: 1 Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
>
>
> Whoa!
>
> This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
>
> Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a little
> although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
>
> I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my DAW
> and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> units/brand do what exaclty.
>
> Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
>
> Others Brands:
> GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
>
> Doepfer:
> A119input
> A100P6 (case)
> A124Wasp
> A-140 env1eope
> A-115audiodivider
> A-116waveshaper
> A-136distortion
> A-188 BBD
> A187-1
> A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> A106 Xtrene Filter
> A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
>
> Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160
> * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116
> * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131
>
> I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
>
> So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> destruction heehee :)
>
> I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
>
> You guys rock!!
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> , "Carci" <francois.maxime@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be sure
> to
> check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last NIN
> albums,
> it's full of it.)
> >
> > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> digital noise.
> >
> > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to produce,
> basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules, you'll need more
> rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you think you can live
> without in the basic system and replace them with more specific modules.
> Trust me, the time you spend reading every module user manual will help you
> a lot when you get your hands on your system for the first time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> , Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@>
>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> harsh noises.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > >
> > > 1 group owner
> > >
> > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > >
> > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > >
> > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > >
> > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > >
> > > www. vu-us. com
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > Subject: AW: 1 Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want to
> use
> > >
> > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into the
> > >
> > > system.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > >
> > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong there.
> Apart
> > >
> > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> wave
> > >
> > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> Doepfer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic system
> > >
> > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> have
> no
> > >
> > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> suits
> > >
> > > you more.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the people
> that
> > >
> > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog rock
> or
> > >
> > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't produce
> > >
> > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital sounds
> > >
> > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> processor
> > >
> > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> filters
> > >
> > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> your
> > >
> > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> envelopes,
> > >
> > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount of
> these.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > York
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> [mailto: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
> ] Im
> > >
> > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > >
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > >
> > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:
> doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
>
>
> > >
> > > Betreff: 1 Newby Seeking Chaos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> and
> > >
> > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough to
> get
> > >
> > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > >
> > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from other
> > >
> > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > >
> > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> mechanical/industrial
> > >
> > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it right
> and
> > >
> > > come "alive".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer ) for my sound Ive heard allot
> of
> > >
> > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> really
> > >
> > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love in
> > >
> > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound im
> > >
> > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> "Basic
> > >
> > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc but
> > >
> > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before I
> make
> > >
> > > my order.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice on
> lol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for reading :)
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