Bakkis & Robert:
Point noted and taken :)

Thanks guys, I will do just that :)



David:

"Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if your not just processing external sounds."

- For now, I think i will be just doing external sound.

"Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and I promise you can never have enough of these."

- Would you not say that my list has that Could you recommend any essential units Im already on 2100Euros on my current list :/ Maybe I should rid of the bitcrusher and some "irrelevant" units (for now)

"It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve,"

- I think my goal for my 1st startup kit, would be to be able to shape & distort bass/synth lead sounds mainly.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Robbert Jan Rink <robbertrink@...> wrote:
>
> And do check if you can afford the P9 case. It is only a small extra amount
> while it offers more flexibility in the future!
>
> Robbert
>
> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, <david.salter@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The list are modules for mashing sound, however you need to control as
> > well, even for the nastiest noise.
> >
> > Control comes from modulation; LFO's, Envelope generators and VCA's and
> > I promise you can never have enough of these. Also sequencer is a cool
> > choice this can be done with the A160/161 and a mixer combination or one
> > of the many purpose built sequencers out there. These no only act as
> > note generators but CV generators, complex oscillators and more.
> >
> > Add a mixer, a ring modulator and audio sources like VCO's and noise if
> > your not just processing external sounds.
> >
> > As I said modular has a habit of getting dangerously consuming.
> >
> > It is very important to set a couple of goals you want to achieve, do
> > some research and ask questions and build a small system (in a largish
> > case) to start with then expand as you develop.
> >
> >
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> > On Behalf Of doof_per
> > Sent: 02 June 2010 12:29
> >
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: 1 Re: Newby Seeking Chaos
> >
> >
> > Whoa!
> >
> > This is the quickest and nicest advice ive ever gotten. THANKS GUYS!
> >
> > Thanks a million, everything is being noted & my head is spinning a
> > little although light is being shed and my ideas are getting clearer!
> >
> > I think for now it would be best to just get the sound sources from my
> > DAW and use the modular as an effects/shaping/sound design tool. I would
> > probably go for modular sound source once I get my head around which
> > units/brand do what exaclty.
> >
> > Here is my current ("interest") list (as far as I can understand from
> > reading/hearing the details of each unit specifically on the site)
> >
> > Others Brands:
> > GeigerCounter(FnckYEAH!)
> > B:assMaster (Euro Rack)
> >
> > Doepfer:
> > A119input
> > A100P6 (case)
> > A124Wasp
> > A-140 env1eope
> > A-115audiodivider
> > A-116waveshaper
> > A-136distortion
> > A-188 BBD
> > A187-1
> > A189-1 Bit Crusher,
> > A137-1 Wave Multipliers
> > A106 Xtrene Filter
> > A113 Sub Harmonic Gen
> >
> > Very confused with what these are exactly/if I need them:
> > * 1 x Trigger Divider A-160
> > * 1 x VC Waveform Processor A-116
> > * 1 x logarithmic VCA A-131
> >
> > I do actually own a TM7 Scrotum Smasher & TM1 & llooove them dearly :)
> >
> > So does the above list make sense to have a working/functioning box of
> > destruction heehee :)
> >
> > I dont mind everything being mono as I usually prefer mono anyways.
> >
> > You guys rock!!
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , "Carci" <francois.maxime@>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > If you like Buchla, check the brand "Make noise", you'll probably love
> > their QMMG / MATHS combo.
> > > The most extreme combo I've tried so far, for both processing and raw
> > sound generation was A136 distortion + A106 Xtreme filter + Metasonix
> > Scrotum smasher. Sounds go from plain powerful distortion to unbearable
> > noises and scratches and tube screaming.
> > > The smasher is not a module but Metasonix now makes eurorack so be
> > sure to check their stuff, (especially if you like the sound on the last
> > NIN albums, it's full of it.)
> > >
> > > Modules like A188 BBD and A189 Bit crusher can be nasty if you like
> > digital noise.
> > >
> > > You look like you already have an idea of what sound you want to
> > produce, basic systems are great but if you wanna add more modules,
> > you'll need more rackspace. So better have a look at which modules you
> > think you can live without in the basic system and replace them with
> > more specific modules. Trust me, the time you spend reading every module
> > user manual will help you a lot when you get your hands on your system
> > for the first time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > , Bakis Sirros
> >
> > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > all of this is true, but also get an A196 PLL module, for weird and
> > harsh noises.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > >
> > > > 1 group owner
> > > >
> > > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > >
> > > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > >
> > > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > >
> > > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com
> > > >
> > > > www. vu-us. com
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 6/2/10, York Luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: York Luethje <ybl@>
> > > > Subject: AW: 1 Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 11:08 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you want the sounds to originate with your modular or do you want
> > to use
> > > >
> > > > it more as a processing tool (e.g. for you drum machine)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the latter case I suggest at least an A-119 to get sounds into
> > the
> > > >
> > > > system.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In addition, Doepfer and all the other manufacturers offer vast
> > > >
> > > > possibilities for wrecking any sound; you really can't go wrong
> > there. Apart
> > > >
> > > > from the various filters take a look at wave shapers (A-116, A-136),
> > wave
> > > >
> > > > multipliers (A-137), the A-188 range of BBDs etc. And that's just
> > Doepfer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you're not quite sure how to utilise your modular, the basic
> > system
> > > >
> > > > provides a very good starting point. If you later find out that you
> > have no
> > > >
> > > > use for certain modules, you can always sell them and get stuff that
> > suits
> > > >
> > > > you more.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The likely reason you hear so many old school demos is that the
> > people that
> > > >
> > > > can afford a modular tend to be a bit older and grew up with prog
> > rock or
> > > >
> > > > 80ies synth pop. There's no reason a modular synthesizer can't
> > produce
> > > >
> > > > contemporary sounds, especially now that more and more digital
> > sounds
> > > >
> > > > generators and processors are developed. Check out the new DSP
> > processor
> > > >
> > > > from Doepfer, but also the Tip Top Audio and Harvestman range.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One word of caution: People tend to go for the 'Sexy' modules, like
> > filters
> > > >
> > > > and add utility modules only as an afterthought. After messing with
> > your
> > > >
> > > > gear for a while you will probably find that you need more VCA's,
> > envelopes,
> > > >
> > > > LFO's etc. The basic system also supplies you with a decent amount
> > of these.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > York
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> >
> > [mailto: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> > ] Im
> >
> > > >
> > > > Auftrag von doof_per
> > > >
> > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2010 03:41
> > > >
> > > > An: doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com <doepfer_a100%2540yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > > >
> > > > Betreff: 1 Newby Seeking Chaos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ive spent hours and hours and hours online checking out modular gear
> > and
> > > >
> > > > (trying) to get my head around it all. For now, ive saved up enough
> > to get
> > > >
> > > > an a100 Basic System2 and im hoping for the best! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I wanted to know from anyone:
> > > >
> > > > Im only after modular gear for the "alive" sounds ive heard from
> > other
> > > >
> > > > peoples stuff (mainly Buchla TBH..love that sound!..But cant afford
> > > >
> > > > one..anyways thats irrelevant)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Im mainly into really distorted sounds, drum n bass,
> > mechanical/industrial
> > > >
> > > > and love shaping sounds and spending hours on a sound to make it
> > right and
> > > >
> > > > come "alive".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am I looking in the right place(Doepfer ) for my sound Ive heard
> > allot of
> > > >
> > > > the dopefer demos online and I guess the impression I get is rather
> > really
> > > >
> > > > old school, simplistic and minimal/80's (Which I dont mind and love
> > in
> > > >
> > > > certain instances)..But at the same time..Can I do more with it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What would someone recommend I get as a startup, to get this sound
> > im
> > > >
> > > > after..Shall I go for a "sound design/shaping"a100 system..Or for a
> > "Basic
> > > >
> > > > synth system"..I have read soo many links/seen youtube vids etc etc
> > but
> > > >
> > > > really I wanted to hear it from the horses mouth, so to speak before
> > I make
> > > >
> > > > my order.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a "sound rape a100" system they can offer advice
> > on lol
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for reading :)
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