Indeed a serious discussion about problems and seems like synt...com take
their pr seriously. Perhaps this has a bit to do with the fact that users
sometimes also build their modular from kits. It is more of an indepth
relation with their machine. I asked mr D about some help replacing my power
supply and he tried very hard to convince me not to even try it. I got a
most kind note that they wanted to keep me as an alive and satisfied
customer. So I got good service from Doepfer, but it reflects a disbelief in
their customer stock. They treat us a bit like john does buying a VCR, as
for MOTM treating their users more like technicians. I feel that Doepfers
position is the right here actually - more people are techno-morons that
skilled.

None the less I am getting a better and better feeling about the motm, so
don't be surpriced if you did steer me into getting some one day... but not
now - now I am looking for a good home cinema setup.

----- Original Message -----
From: "ringmod45" < ringmod45@... >
To: < Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:55 PM
Subject: 1 Re: touch keys


> hi mike, i concurrently agree with you on almost all of the points
> you mention. the plus side to the motm is the way modules, functions
> and layouts are discussed with its customers before they go to
> production. that's what i was referring to and not the other stuff.
>
> i read the posts you mention below, they do not endear me to motm. i
> don't like the trashing everyone gets from motm. i just like the
> fact, that at least there is some communication involved. with
> doepfer you are always in the dark. this is the best market research
> group doepfer could ever have and they constantly ignore certain
> requests for info or upgrades that are desperately needed.
>
>
> i am not an motm user and don't think i will buying any of their
> products soon. i am not trying to influence doepfer customers to
> switch their way. i just wish doepfer was a little more involved with
> the group. i should have mentioned Synthesisers.Com as well. please
> check out this group.
>
> i am not trying to bring back the old stuff of the past, but instead
> look to the future where Doepfer can be a little more open with its
> customers and this group. it would be nice if doepfer did discuss
> with the group on the polls and keep us in the loop. from the sounds
> of mr. doepfer's email, maybe a legitimate poll from doepfer would be
> the answer to their "problem child" . maybe a little market research
> with this group will help in the design process to avoid
> disappointments from all sides.
>
> hope it is easier :)
> RM
>
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "its_peake" <its_peake@y...> wrote:
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "ringmod45" <ringmod45@y...> wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > i want to enlighten a few of you as to how a company should react
> and
> > > use its group members for input on its new and upcoming designs.
> > >
> > > THE GROUP IN QUESTION IS MOTM. please go to the group and read
> how
> > > the designers and customers work together in order to release a
> > > product. layout and design features are planned and discussed to
> > > avoid any screw ups or lack of features.
> >
> > Are you referring to this discovery:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/motm/message/15562
> >
> > This conclusion:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/motm/message/15617
> >
> > And this response:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/motm/message/15619
> >
> > (Sorry, no money-back guarantee like Synthesizers.com)
> >
> >
> > These classic responses to new feature requests:
> >
> > > - VC ADSR,
> >
> > ZZZzzzzzzzzz.........
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AH] 2002 preview / MOTM
> > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:17:50 -0600
> >
> >
> > 24dB Highpass filters:
> >
> > > > Later, this is probably the least useful of any filter.
> > >
> > > Strongly disagree. I consider my Doepfer -24 dB filter one of the
> > coolest sound-sculpting
> > tools
> > > I've ever used.
> >
> > If you like frying bacon sounds :)
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AH] 2002 preview / MOTM
> > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:46:37 -0600
> >
> >
> > Or the fact that the MO*M forum is censored
> >
> > http://www.the-gas-station.com/messages.cfm Type=normal&thread_id=
> > 46823񏃄
> >
> > http://www.the-gas-station.com/messages.cfm Type=normal&thread_id=
> > 46823񎿎
> >
> >
> > Oh yeah, he doesn't care for Doepfer as well:
> >
> > The product lines matching most closely the alternative version of
> > "best" The beastly Serge and
> > the vile Doepfer. Man, you can patch things out of those dreadful
> > toads that would give you bad
> > dreams for a week.
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AH] 2002 preview / MOTM
> > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:19:49 -0500
> >
> > (At least Doepfer offer a VC ADSR as well as
> > other envelopes that actually work per expected
> > envelope behaviour as exhibited over the last
> > 30 or so years...)
> >
> >
> > In my opinion, keep Doepfer exactly the way it is...
> > That's all I have to say on this; it speaks for
> > itself. Just please retain the voltage addressing
> > of stages on the touch keyboard/sequencer :-D
> >
> > Easier,
> >
> > -Mike
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>