Thanks all. I guess I was misunderstanding the VCAs!

I still think it's weird that the a120/a106-5 filter it without amplification.

An a119 and the a133 are both on my wishlist. The a133 especially for
use with my BBDs.

I have an mf-101 en route and am looking forward to the envelope
following fun.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:36 PM,
achtung_999< heinrich.himmelwasser@... > wrote:

>
>
> The A119 is actually especially made for external signal input
> amplification.
> Next to that you can also derive an envelope following CV and you can
> derive gate signals from incoming audio with this module.
> I use it all the time. By this time I own 4 of them to get external fx
> and samples into the system.
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Sandy Brain< sandybrain@... > wrote:
>>
>>
>> you could also use the A119
>> http://www.doepfer.de/a119.htm
>>
>> as Monroe says, the VCA won't amplify your external signal
>>
>> On 15 Aug 2009, at 18:34, Greg Cerveny wrote:
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>>> Hey Sandy,
>>>
>>> I tried putting it through an a-131 to bring the level up, do you
>>> think that would be enough
>>>
>>> Curiously, why would an a-120 and an a-106-5 would filter the source
>>> untreated, but the a-121 need it amplified
>>>
>>> Thanks! I'm still new to this and trying to figure it all out.
>>>
>>> -Greg
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Sandy Brain< sandybrain@... >
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > are you using an external input module of some kind to bring the
>>> > external input up to 'modular" levels
>>> > if not, i'd say that's your problem.
>>> >
>>> > On 15 Aug 2009, at 17:32, Greg Cerveny wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I'm really confused on this one.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have an a121 multimode filter that doesn't filter external
>>> sources.
>>> >> At first I thought the filter was not functioning at all. The
>>> >> resonance will self oscillate and allow hints of what was coming in
>>> >> from the external source. Then, I patched it in a conventional
>>> synth
>>> >> path.
>>> >>
>>> >> This works:
>>> >>
>>> >> When I patch it in vco -> a121 -> vca, it modifies the sound as
>>> >> intended (hp/lp/bp/notch).
>>> >>
>>> >> These don't:
>>> >>
>>> >> When I patch in external source (drum machine/iphone) -> a121, I
>>> >> barely get anything. The same if I patch ext source -> vca ->
>>> a121 or
>>> >> ext source -> vca -> a121 -> vca.
>>> >> When I have more complex sources like vco -> vca -> bbd (188-2) ->
>>> >> a121, the result is the same as the external source.
>>> >>
>>> >> Conclusion:
>>> >>
>>> >> It only seems to filter when I send in simple wave forms from a
>>> vco.
>>> >>
>>> >> Notes:
>>> >>
>>> >> My other filters (a120/a106-5), allow me to patch in external
>>> sources
>>> >> (iphone/drummachine) and work as expected.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there something unique about the a121 and complex wave forms
>>> that
>>> >> I'm missing Is my a121 toast
>>> >>
>>> >
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>>> >
>>> >
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