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On 27 Jan 2009, at 00:34, achtung_999 wrote:

> I agree on the sampling rate. But let's not forget that these boards
> are
> made for bodily controllers.
>

Yes, I saw that, and was actually wondering what these then had to do
with CV writing (and reading), as mentioned in the post you replied
to. There are several devices like this one on the market, and they do
serve a particular niche, yes.

> You would agree that 1 KHZ is enough for tracking human movement ;-)
>

Not in the morning, when I just had my espresso's ;-)

> I would say that 22.5 KHZ would already be quite sufficient for
> tracking CV,
> everything above that is luxery.
>

Oh no, certainly not. I'd say 44KHz or thereabouts is the absolute
minimum... I leave the math explanation to the math-oriented people in
here. My coffee has already worn out...

> Can you elaborate why the through zero point is so important I am
> curious.
>

Most CV voltages in a modular are bipolar, with envelopes and keyboard
the most noteable exceptions. LFO's, S/H and what not all go through
zero. Or more correctly: *can* go through zero.

> It is probably more likely to be a bitch when designing stuff like
> this
> though. Seeing that most of these machines actually are not able to
> do this.
>

You're correct here. It seems to be difficult, since nothing really is
on the market yet, and we had about 30 years to develop such a beast.
Probably more a question of market demand than a technical one, but
still...

_g

> Besides this I recently bought a A192 (thanks Guillermo!) and am
> very happy
> with it despite its constraints.
> But I knew about these on beforehand.
>
> Ernst
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Guy Drieghe D. < guy@... >
> wrote:
>
> > You'll need at least -5V to +5V for proper CV handling in a modular;
> > probably even more. It's especially the through-zero portion that is
> > important...
> >
> > But the 1KHz sampling rate is the instant killer in this case.
> > Volta works at up-to 192KHz, and that's more like it.
> >
> > _g
> >
> >
> > On 27 Jan 2009, at 00:13, achtung_999 wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, there were some more issues.. I was a bit quick sorry about
> > > that.But
> > > about the 0-5v: come on people.. haven't you heard about shifting
> > > the CV
> > > upwards
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Guy Drieghe D.
> < guy@... <guy%40guyd2.com>>
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > No, not really,
> > > > 0V to +5V is not adequate for CV, and a sample rate of 1KHz is
> far
> > > > from sufficient.
> > > >
> > > > _g
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 27 Jan 2009, at 00:03, achtung_999 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Don,
> > > > > The proposed OSC device is not necessery. Something like that
> > > already
> > > > > exists!
> > > > > Check out what the people at Sonology developed, they sell
> this
> > > as a
> > > > > kit.
> > > > > http://www.koncon.nl/ipsonlab/ipscomp_htm/ipsoncomp_specs.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Get in touch with them! http://www.koncon.nl/ipsonlab/buy.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ernst
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Don Kim
> > > < dkimcg@... <dkimcg%40gmail.com><dkimcg%40gmail.com>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I wish the A-192 were that easy to use. I have one, I only
> use
> > > it
> > > > > > with Max/MSP since i have a "sensor" reading patch. The
> A-192
> > > only
> > > > > > accepts positive signals, and anything faster than MIDI,
> or even
> > > > > very
> > > > > > close to midi speed will not be as good as recording a CV
> on the
> > > > > > modular side, and if you want gates or pitch, gotta do it in
> > > Max (no
> > > > > > workaround other than blowing an assload of cash on the ASys
> > > CV to
> > > > > > midi converter module). Maybe someone will make something
> like
> > > > > motu's
> > > > > > new product for reading CVs into aux automation tracks, the
> > > proposed
> > > > > > modular OSC device could help things... :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 9:24 AM, jmaddocks1975
> > > > > > < jmaddocks1975@... <jmaddocks1975%40yahoo.co.uk>
> > > <jmaddocks1975%40yahoo.co.uk><jmaddocks1975%
> >
> > > > 40yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> > > > > > > If you are using your modular with midi you could use
> the a192
> > > > > module
> > > > > > > to record the cv's to your computer and recall when
> needed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > brian <koura5578@...> wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hello,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I am a very new user to the euro world and have a couple
> > > > > modules so
> > > > > > > far but recently got an A-112 second hand. My time with
> it has
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > been about 1 hour so far but was wondering if it is
> possible
> > > to
> > > > > > > record CV data as opposed to audio. It seems like I was
> able
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > quick swells from a slew-as-envelope but when I slowed the
> > > timing
> > > > > > > down it didn't seem to work. I am currently waiting on
> some
> > > proper
> > > > > > > lfo/adsr to fully test it but wanted to see if any of you
> > > have any
> > > > > > > info. Likewise, if it is not set-up to do so currently is
> > > there a
> > > > > > > possible mod to allow CV recording
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > >> b.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
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