Tony,
I will spend some time this week reading up!

The Model 24 was under my attention already but again I have not read about
its operational details in full.
But what I see comes very close indeed. Although I would prefer just a
bottom and upper border CV input instead of the mean/width combi.
That's in my mind however.. I'm a picky bastard too. ;-)

Anyway what I understood from the Sonology people is that they still have
quite some PCBs lying around.
We shall see if this is able to be converted to Doepfer standards since the
power in their studio is +30/-30 volts...
The main sales pitch I can offer to choose for the TMG instead of the Blacet
ID or the Plan B M24 is that it will contain 4 units in one housing..
So it will be a quite cheap solution I think..

Anyway a big thanks for your helpfull tips Tony!

greetings from the Hague,

Ernst

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Tony Rolando < tony@... >wrote:

> Ernst, what about the Plan B M24 Heisenberg Generator, the bottom half
> of that module seems to do what the TMG does... It has its own clock
> controlling speed of the random voltage. Deviation is basically the
> same thing as Width on the Blacet ID, or the uper and lower limits on
> the TMG. Mean is basically the same thing as the Level on the ID. It
> is a pretty cool module. I have one complaint; the Meter panel control
> has too much slop. I'm a picky bastard though! There is an explanation
> of the modules on the website, you should read it and see if it will do
> what you are looking for from the TMG.
>
> Tony
>
>
> achtung_999 wrote:
> >
> > Hey Tony,
> >
> > The Blacet Improbability Drive seems very interesting to me too yes.
> > I have been eyeing that one from the sideline..
> > I haven't read enough about it yet to make a straight comparison..
> Soon...
> > And isn't the Blacet a non-eurorack module (a no no for me)
> >
> > That poll for a window comparator was actually a result of me looking
> > how to
> > produce a Tendency Mask Generator and missing several functionalities in
> > existing modules. I dropped the idea for the window comparator here in
> the
> > list and Bakis was kind enough to make a poll out of it.
> > The window comparator has partly some similarities to the Tendency Maks
> > Generator. But the TMG is more than that!
> > It has its own clock source, the speed of the random voltage, which can
> go
> > really fast.. As I remember well straight into audio speeds.. providing
> > different coloured noise textures. (don't pin me on this one it's been
> > more
> > than 5 years since I worked with it!--more news on that next week). I
> > again
> > like to point out that what comes out of the TMG is a continous
> > voltage. On
> > the unit in the studio @ Sonology four seperate units share one internal
> > clock but each section has its own pair of border inputs.
> >
> > Be aware that the Tendency Mask Generator comes from a computer music
> > frame
> > of mind.
> > The idea stems from the German composer Gottfried Michael Koenig (
> > http://www.koenigproject.nl/ < http://www.koenigproject.nl/ > ).
> > He masked random values to fit in between borderlines to obtain several
> > parameters for his compositions. This was all done in the seventies at
> the
> > forefront of computer music research.
> > Current head of Sonology, Kees Tazelaar ( http://www.keestazelaar.com
> > < http://www.keestazelaar.com > ) was
> > keen on getting this to work in the institute's analog studio. Mainly for
> > use in his own compositions.
> >
> > Greetings and thanks for the enthousiastic responses!
> >
> > Ernst
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Tony Rolando < tony@... <tony%40makenoisemusic.com>
> > <mailto:tony%40makenoisemusic.com <tony%2540makenoisemusic.com>>>wrote:
> >
> > > This idea sound very similar to the Blacet Improbability Drive. The
> > > upper and lower limits controlled by the "Width" and the center (the
> > > level which the random voltage fluctuate around) controlled by "level."
> > > The module spits out, amongst other things, random voltages btween the
> > > upper and lower limits as set by the width control. Check out the
> manual
> > > for better detail:
> > >
> > > http://www.blacet.com/ID.html < http://www.blacet.com/ID.html >
>
> > >
> > > THis functionality could be easily achieved with the forthcoming window
> > > comparator (I think Doepfer announced such a module) and a single
> random
> > > voltage generator. Right
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > achtung_999 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear list,
> > > >
> > > > After having tried to convince you people several times why this
> would
> > > > be a cool module.
> > > > (also see:
> > > >
> > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys id=12854700
> > < http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys id=12854700 >
> > > >
> > < http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys id=12854700
> > < http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys id=12854700 >>
> > > )
> > > >
> > > > I tried to imitate it with some existing A100 modules.
> > > > After a long and tiresome time of trying this I thought it was time
> to
> > > > get back to the
> > > > source..
> > > > I had a long phone conversation with the head of the institute of
> > > > Sonology in The Hague.
> > > > Mostly to refresh my memory on the exact workings of this intricate
> > > > module.
> > > > After some talking he came up with an excellent idea..
> > > > "why not release a small run of Tendency Maks generators in Doepfer
> > > > format "
> > > >
> > > > Next week I will have a meeting with him and the head technician of
> > > > the institute to see
> > > > how
> > > > realistic this plan is...
> > > >
> > > > To be continued..
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Ernst
> > > >
> > > > PS: The working of the module is actually so that it outputs a
> > > > CONTINIOUS CV between the
> > > > borders! The finished unit will probably contain FOUR seperate
> > > > Tendency Mask Generators
> > > > which share the same clock.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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