Hey Peter...

It's the vactrol Deopfer used. Their's are much much faster
responding (read: less of the natural decay inherent with that). A
downside of this is there's much less ringing in the combined mode,
which is what your wtf'ing. The upside, little or no bleed through. I
opted for the more expensive Perkin-Elmer vactrols and a Sallen-Key
architecture. The gain n bleed through was a tradeoff I was willing
to make in order to get the marvelous ringing that goes with the P-E's
in a Sallen-Key config. If that's what your after, check out the Model 13.

In that the Doepfer unit is fitted with a resonance knob, therefore
more of a traditional filter as opposed to a filtering 12dB/oct gating
device like the M13. So the vac's he used were better suited for this
application. If anyone's noted the rather lazy response of the M12 in
high Q mode, that's what I'm talking about...and that's why the M13
has no resonance knob!

If you're thinking of simply changing the vac's to the Perkins, you
can't use the very same ones as the M13/Buchla 292, but there are
others that will improve things a bit. Better, but not the same and
while they increases the ring it greatly effects proper operation of
the three modes. It's a different filter structure.

- Peter Grenader

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Pieter Volger <volger@...> wrote:
>
> After watching the video I tried it now for an hour with 2 model 15
VCOs
> and a A-101-2. I got a lot of nice perc sounds but not that nice smooth
> ringing sound...
>
> Pieter
>
>
> peteruertz schrieb:
> >
> > Me, too :)
> >
> > Listen and you will see:
> >
> > http://vimeo.com/2680645 pg=embed&sec=2680645
> > < http://vimeo.com/2680645 pg=embed&sec=2680645 >
> >
> > Best, peter
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, "Richard Scott"
> > <richard_scott@> wrote:
> > >
> > > damn that's beautiful
> > >
> > > but that video just cost me several hundred $$$$$!
> > >
> > > R
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: peteruertz
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:47 PM
> > > Subject: 1 Re: A-101-2 Vactrol Low Pass Gate - WTF
> > >
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > Have a look here!
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch v=e-79tDaxsi4&feature=related
> > < http://www.youtube.com/watch v=e-79tDaxsi4&feature=related >
> > >
> > > peter
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, "Richard Scott"
> > > <richard_scott@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > actually the plan B demo is underwheming, I can't see them selling
> > > many on the strength of that. this is much closer to the sound I'm
> > > after - I have no idea how it is made:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch v=xfYZcQeUI9A
> > < http://www.youtube.com/watch v=xfYZcQeUI9A >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: peteruertz
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:51 PM
> > > > Subject: 1 Re: A-101-2 Vactrol Low Pass Gate - WTF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hi richard,
> > > > i guess you are looking for something like this effect:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ear-group.net/DTG.mp3
< http://www.ear-group.net/DTG.mp3 >
> > > >
> > > > Its a Plan B and i also like to know, if you could do this with a
> > > > doepfer!
> > > >
> > > > Beste, peter
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, "Richard Scott"
> > > > <richard_scott@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > after playing with this for half an hour at Schneiders,
manual in
> > > > hand, trying and wholly failing to recreate that uniquely woody
> > > > marimba sound from a buchla music easel i really have to ask:
> > what IS
> > > > this module for
> > > > >
> > > > > Can someone offer me a user example that makes wise use of
the two
> > > > Gate inputs
> > > > >
> > > > > Can it really make this percussive sound I'm after, or
should i be
> > > > looking elsewhere
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter.
> > > > > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam.
> > > > > SPAMfighter has removed 1152 of my spam emails to date.
> > > > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
> > < http://www.spamfighter.com/len >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Professional version does not have this message
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter.
> > > > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam.
> > > > SPAMfighter has removed 1152 of my spam emails to date.
> > > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
> > < http://www.spamfighter.com/len >
> > > >
> > > > The Professional version does not have this message
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter.
> > > We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam.
> > > SPAMfighter has removed 1152 of my spam emails to date.
> > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
> > < http://www.spamfighter.com/len >
> > >
> > > The Professional version does not have this message
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
>