i think a programmable (at the crudest hardware level, to minimise
doepfers development costs) module with a USB interface would be
perfect, something that simply presents some inputs, knob values and
outputs to a DSP. even without thinking about audio, you could write
all kinds of things for it, random generators, algorithms for
generative music, interesting cv processing, polarisers, attenuators,
fine control CVs (for eg a112), interesting software envelopes and
LFOs, and that's before you even get into audio.

in fact for the sake of cheapness it might be worth making one that
didnt even try to do audio very impressively, and was focused on CV.

i've thought for a while that someone, ideally doepfer because we love
them (although grr direct purchase with bank transfer, in 2008!...),
could make a simple module putting an arduino behind a panel with a
couple of knobs and the levels corrected for modular synths.

http://www.tinker.it/en/Products/Arduino

very cheap, easy project for someone, could be the beginning of a real
scene of open modular digital architecture. i'm annoyingly busy or i'd
do it myself.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

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> so, we are coming again to the proposed USB (OSC) to cv/gate module,

right

> i'll create this poll.
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> --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Frequency Divider <freq.div@...> wrote:
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> From: Frequency Divider <freq.div@...>
> Subject: Re: 1 Re: bright new ideas for future Doepfer

A100 modules!

> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 3:20 PM
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> wonderful idea. just like the osc idea. i personally think an open
> source digital module with an extremely simple hardware interface like
> the planned A-187-1 Voltage Controlled DSP Effects Module and an added
> usb port would be the best possible digital module. to me that would be
> the 'universal digital module' ;-)
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> partlydrone schreef:
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> >
> > that's really interesting stuff dieter.
> >
> > one thing i've wondered about it sharing the developer costs in the
> > community, a lot of people are asking about digital modules, and i
> > wonder whether the general purpose digital module that has been in the
> > pipeline for a while could be released openly with just a few
> > functions, and enough information for people to write their own
> > programs for it if they feel nerdy enough. not necessarily write whole
> > filters and things, as that's a bit unrealistic, but especially for
> > controller things it would be perfect, and simple, and a public
> > library would build up fairly fast i think.
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com
> > <mailto:Doepfer_ a100%40yahoogrou ps.com>, <yahoo@> wrote:
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> > > > I can see why Dieter would be hesitant in developing such a
> > > > module if the A-112 sales are not that great :(
> > > >
> > > > Christophe
> > >
> > > No - the A-112 sales are fine. Though I see myself in the first
> > place as a
> > > module designer I'm also a business man and have to keep the company
> > running
> > > (each staff member has to pay his expenses every month :-).
> > >
> > > During the last few years I made the experience that the sales

of more

> > > complex (and consequently more expensive) modules are a bit

poor. A good

> > > example is the morphing filter A-107 and on the other hand the new
> > A-106-6
> > > XP filter. The A-107 has a lot of features and it took more than two
> > years
> > > to design the module (together with a lot of very helpful

discussions in

> > > this group). The final design had all the features the customers
> > were asking
> > > for but obviously the price was too high to make the A-107 a

commercial

> > > winner (after all the sales did not cover our development costs so
> > far). On
> > > the other hand there is the new A-106-6 XP filter. It has much less
> > features
> > > than the A-107 but offers nearly the same filter functions as the
> > A-107 (but
> > > without the morphing feature). So far more A-106-6 were ordered than
> > A-107's
> > > during it's entire livespane since summer 2003. And the A-106-6 is
> > available
> > > since fall 2008 !
> > >
> > > That's what I have to keep in mind if modules with too many

features are

> > > suggested. We made the experience that the sales of too complex
> > modules are
> > > not satisfying from the commercial point of view (don't get me
> > wrong: I in
> > > person like the A-107 much more than the A-106-6). So I'm a bit
> > cautious if
> > > modules with too many features that will increase the price are
> > suggested.
> > > There will be always some experts who want to have such modules
> > badly. But
> > > for us it's a flop if we sell e.g. only 25 modules per year as we
> > have to
> > > keep in mind the development costs which are much higher for more
> > complex
> > > modules. If then the sales are worse compared to a less complex
> > module (and
> > > hence with lower development costs) you will understand by concerns.
> > >
> > > These are some basic notes that are not related only to the

suggested

> > > complex sampler module. But they may explain why I'm a bit

cautious with

> > > suggestions of too complex (and hence too expensive) modules.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Dieter Doepfer
> > >
> >
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