On 03 Nov 2008, at 00:31, Sean Williams wrote:

> -g
>
> Whilst we have not exhausted the possibilities of analogue sound
> sources, what some of us are interested in is more to do with CV
> control of sound sources.
>

Yes, me too.
Hence my digital-control-voltage suggestions, earlier on.
CV and sophisticated clocks/timers/triggers/boolean-things is where
it's at.

> I have been using a BEL BD80 for years and
> the ability to capture sections of sounds that you have just
> synthesized and then use them immediately is incredibly useful.
>

Dunno what that BEL thang is, but I guess it's a sampler
Sure, samplers are useful in live situations.

>

> I think there is a lot of interest here because of the possibility of
> keeping every parameter and control visible and not hidden behind a
> menu. Sure, samplers have been around for ages, but to be able to
> integrate the control of sampling into the modular system opens up
> the possibilities for performance and improvisation.
>

Absolutely, I agree.
Still, personally I'd rather use a "ghost tape" for live performance
and improv. :-)

>
>
> I just played a gig with the AS, Doepfer, Plan B and Cwejman modular
> stuff, an MS10, an MS20 and a Nord modular. The only big problem we
> had was with, guess what... the Nord. The vocoded sound got lost and
> with inadequate parameter access that was the end of that! Give that
> we have all the control options available already in the world of CV,
> it seems like a good idea to expand into areas previously severely
> limited by MIDI control standards.
>

I think you misunderstood or misinterpreted my previous post a bit.
It's not that I'm *against* anything digital, cv or audio, it's just
that most of the time it makes my toes curl. Perhaps I've seen/heard
the wrong performers

I used to have a few Nord Modulars, 'cause I think the base idea is a
good one. There is something to be said (in theory) about a digital
modular; cheap, easy, flexible, patch memory, expandability, etc...
But yeah, parameter access is awkward or impossible, improv is hard to
do, and they just sound... bad. Real bad.

>
>
> However, the more we get to discuss this kind of thing the better the
> equipment will become.
> Let's see what the polls say
>

Agreed.

Cheers,
_Guy

>

> all the best
>
> sean
>
> >
> >I'm sorry, guys, but everytime I see the words "sampler" and "bit
> >rate" and similar coming up in analogue modular talks, my stomach
> >churns a bit. Call me an old fart, and backwards, but there's still
> so
> >much to do, still so many possibilities with "ordinary" voltage
> >control... I would have no idea what to do with something like a
> >sampler in a modular setup. If I want to slice and dice samples, I've
> >got plenty of perfectly capable software which takes care of that. If
> >I want to have 8-bit sounds, I'll dig up my old Commodore 64.
> >
> >Digital certainly has its place in modular synthesis, but please keep
> >it out the audio path (for now). Otherwise I just don't see the
> point.
> >Might as well just go for a Nord Modular, and have it at that.
> >
> >Oh well... </rant>
> >
> >Never mind.
> >
> >_g
> >
>
>

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