Bakis was sayin that you need alot of banana to mini-jack panels. I disagree with this. I think a more economical solution (with regards to both space and money) would be to have a single 4hp system gnd panel. This module would connect to the doepfer powerbus and bring system GND to the panel via a banana socket. Have a system GND socket added to the front panel of your serge system (very simple modification) and connect the two via a single banana cable. GND is now shared.

This method saves precious HP, allows you to use FEWER cables to patch between systems, and allow you to use Banana to mini-jack cables. These would have only the TIP of the mini-jack connected to the single element on the banana jack.

Tony

> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> From: synth_freak_2000@...
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:47:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: 1 Serge compatability
>
> me too.
>
>
> --- implode7@... wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually, that's very good to know, since I'm
> > building a modcan/cynthia/serge system. I very much
> > like the metalbox stuff.
> >
> > -------------- Original message
> > ----------------------
> > From: Bakis Sirros < synth_freak_2000@... >
> > > yes, Metalbox does banana version modules, if you
> > > want.
> > > i have some banana metalbox modules...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- implode7@... wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Metalbox is frac rac, isn't it - mini jacks, not
> > > > bananas...unless he does those also.
> > > > -------------- Original message
> > > > ----------------------
> > > > From: Guy D2 < guy@... >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone any experience with or ideas
> > about
> > > > the wisdom of
> > > > > > interfacing Doepfer modules with as Serge
> > system
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. It seems that Doepfer audio modules run
> > at 5
> > > > volts peak to peak
> > > > > > (-2.5v to +2.5v ) - like the Serge - and
> > uses
> > > > bananna plugs too, so
> > > > > > great, right
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Doepfer uses 3mm (mini) phonejacks, not
> > banana's.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 2. How about Panel Size
> > > > > >
> > > > > Doepfer : 3U
> > > > > Serge: 4U
> > > > >
> > > > > Not really compatible, hardware-wise. Two
> > > > different beasts...
> > > > >
> > > > > > 3. Power supply
> > > > > >
> > > > > Doepfer does both 115/230V AC
> > > > > Doepfer DC rail: +/- 12V (opt: + 5V)
> > > > >
> > > > > > 4. Any other problems anyone can forsee
> > > > > >
> > > > > Don't know the electrical specs of the Serge
> > > > systems,
> > > > > but I'd look seriously into the gate/trigger
> > > > voltages
> > > > > before hooking both up.
> > > > > Most current modulars are electrically
> > compatible
> > > > > (their CV/audio signals, and gates mostly
> > too),
> > > > > but not always 100%.
> > > > >
> > > > > Often not a real problem, but be careful in
> > some
> > > > instances.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Finally, are ther other modular systems
> > anyone
> > > > is aware of that would
> > > > > > seem to be compaable with Serge
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > MetalBox, Cynthia and ModCan A series all use
> > > > banana jacks,
> > > > > and are more or less compatible with Serge.
> > Buchla
> > > > too...
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess our list moderator (Bakis) can tell
> > you
> > > > all about this,
> > > > > since he owns all of the modules of all of the
> > > > systems... ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally, when thinking about crossbreeding
> > > > Doepfer with
> > > > > othe modulars, Serge is not the first system
> > > > coming to my mind...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On a sidenote:
> > > > > I've been working on a complete list/database
> > of
> > > > current
> > > > > modular systems compatibilities (both
> > mechanical
> > > > and electrical),
> > > > > but didn't finish it yet... Maybe one day...
> > Need
> > > > some help here too.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Guy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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