sounds good will try it out, though I don't own a compressor.

but I still need to choose a low pass filter for my doepfer portable
system :)

someone mentioned the a-105 is similar to the motm 440 I have that
motm filter on my studio system (mix of .com, motm, and modcan) and is
my favorite filter I own, so that might be the ticket, I am also
intrigued by the a-102 though as it seems like you can get some nicely
extreme sounds out of it and I don't own any diode based filters.

I might end up getting both, but like I said, I am building a doepfer
portable system, so trying to minimize on extra filters/etc.

Carlos

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Carlos
>
> > I guess I didnt word my message to well. yes which filter has the most
> > 'growl' but also sounds good and bassy when set to self oscillate
> OK - if I understand growl right (that what a Fender Jazzbass can

give),

> then still it is NOT the filter - its the oscillator waveform.
>
> Quite nice examples are the darker synth basses of Steve Winwood, or
> bass of Bernard Edwards in "Your love so good to me" (yes, the bass
> player of Chic did one of the greatest synth bass licks I know - and
> sorry for these boring old fart examples).
>
>
>
> Try this:
> 1.) Three VCOs, one with asymetric, not modulated pulsewave is very
> dominating, the others are saw and triangle but each of them gives

maybe

> only 10% of the signal.
> 2.) lot of small manual given vibratos from the modulation wheel.
> 3.) Lowpassfilter (no matter which one) with only a little(!) envelope
> amount, little resonance; filter envelope is more a longer and piano
> like envelope.
> 4.) VCA envelope may be organ or long piano style but without release.
> 5.) Put some fat and nasty compressor on it (Edwards used a Urei 1176).
>
> Now switch the compressors bypass on and off, and you will see, that
> especially the compressor raises the "growl" which basically was
> produced by the asymmetric pulse beating a littlebit with of the other
> low leveled VCOs.
>
> Florian
>