--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , Florian Anwander
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Ingo,
>
>
> selfoscillate wrote:
> > this should give a better idea about
> > the differences between a standard vco and the a111/2.
> Thanks for the examples. These show, that the new A-111 is nothing
> stunning new. There is nothing that could not be done with existing
> modules.
> I really hoped a new highend VCO would present real new features like
> the oscillators from Plan B or cyndustries.
>
> Florian

hello florian,

i don't know of any other vco which can produce the same
waveform animations as the a111/2 can do. of course you can do
very similar things using other modules, but you would need
a few of them and in total they would cost a lot more money.
compared to the a111 the a111/2 will probably cost only 50 euros
more, but it really offers a lot more. this is especially
important as the cem3340's in the a111 are getting
really rare. at a certain point in the future the a111 will
run out or cost at least the same as an a111/2 and then it will
be obvious why an a111/2 is a cool thing.

on the other hand i can understand what you mean.
the a111/2 is not spilling out really exciting new timbres
like the a137 or a188 can do, but the a111/2 is very good
in creating more subtle animations beyond filtering.
it never before was that easy to obtain these sounds, as almost
everything necessary is already built-in (except for the envelopes).
of course an experienced user with the right selection of
modules can do very similar things.

the a111/2 is not a through-zero-design, but afaik
dieter is also designing such a vco too.
maybe this through-zero-vco offers the features
you are looking for.

i really like the plan b model 15, but besides it's sound i
cannot see any special feature on this vco which cannot be
found on the a111/2 too. the zeroscillator has some cool new
features for sure, but this module costs the same as
three a111/2.

during this week i'll record more examples with the prototype,
let's see if i can do something more exciting with it.

best wishes

ingo