i think because of the waveshaping it can sound different,
but of course it will have some kind of cem-flavour.
maybe the soon coming sound examples will convince you.

best wishes

ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com , "J S" <melovelove@...> wrote:
>
> Is that going to make it sound like a CEM vco
>
> In that case I'm not that excited anymore............I have like 6
cem vco's
> already...
>
> 2006/9/11, hardware@... <hardware@...>:
> >
> > Right. The CEM3394 is used in the A-111-2.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
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> > > [mailto: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
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> > Auftrag von rfahl@... <rfahl%40pdx.edu>
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 17:37
> >
> > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Betreff: Re: AW: 1 Re: New impressive Doepfer
modules
> >
> > > revealed!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm.... This smells like... sniff sniff sniff.... CEM3394 ! If
> > > so, I'm glad
> > > that someone has finally released a module based off that IC.
> > >
> > > Romeo
> > >
> > > Quoting hardware@... <hardware%40doepfer.de>:
> > >
> > > > Ingo,
> > > >
> > > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the
> > > new VCO has a
> > > > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual
> > > functions of
> > > > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a
> > > "pure" VCO
> > > > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't
forget
> > the
> > > > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other
> > > filter of the
> > > > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM
> > > available).
> > > > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you
> > > could treat the
> > > > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > > Dieter Doepfer
> > > >
> > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > [mailto: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
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> > Auftrag von selfoscillate
> > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29
> > > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Betreff: 1 Re: New impressive Doepfer modules
> > revealed!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hello guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco:
> > > > >
> > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions.
> > > > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also
> > > > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in.
> > > > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought
> > > > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar
> > > > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf
> > > > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core
> > > > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do
> > > > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other
> > > > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in
> > > > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but
> > > > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2.
> > > > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms.
> > > > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate
> > > > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff
> > > > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design,
> > > > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic
> > > > > and has that linear-fm-feature.
> > > > >
> > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost
> > > > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked
for),
> > > > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first
> > > > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach
> > > > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice.
> > > > >
> > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259,
> > > > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that
> > > > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely
> > > > > different features. i can understand the expectations and
> > > > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different
> > > > > pair of shoes.
> > > > >
> > > > > best wishes
> > > > >
> > > > > ingo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%
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> > Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of
the 109-
> > > > > features
> > > > > > into a new module.
> > > > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been
that I
> > > > > had
> > > > > > expected!
> > > > > > All the best
> > > > > > Axel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jay schrieb:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote:
> > > > > > > > hello jay,
> > > > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok.
> > > > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though.
> > > > > > > > best regards,
> > > > > > > > Bakis.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different
features and
> > > > > how they
> > > > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca
part seems
> > > > > quite
> > > > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could
better be
> > > > > used for
> > > > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259.
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