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Subject: Re: [chromapolaris] saving Polaris programs on a computer

From: Thomas Wilk <Reginald@...>
Date: 2009-07-29

great; thank you for the tip; I'll check out that program.

Thomas


On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Frank Aitken <mfaitkenjr@...> wrote:
 

Hi,

If you have the cash, you should get Midiquest 10 XL.  Works great with my polaris.  It even has a front panel emulator, which is great because the buttons on the left half of my polaris don't work.

Frank

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, thomas wilk <Reginald@...> wrote:

From: thomas wilk <Reginald@...>
Subject: [chromapolaris] saving Polaris programs on a computer, and exporting them back
To: chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 12:16 PM

 

--- In chromapolaris@ yahoogroups. com, "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@.. .> wrote:
>
> > From: thomas wilk
> >
> > I have 12 sounds stored on my Polaris, (A1 - A 12). How do I
> > save these sounds on my computer? I have sysex librarian, a
> > program on my MAC that can record sysex data. How do I get the
> > Polaris to transfer its sound data? I have read the manual many
> > times and tried many things and nothing seems to quite work. I
> > know it can easily be done.
> >
> > Second,
> >
> > once I have saved the sounds on my computer, how do I restore the
> > sounds if they are deleted? How do you set up the Polaris so
> > that it loads sounds? I know this can easily be done also, but
> > cannot figure it out even with the manual's help.
>
> The only panel-accessible function for sending a program out of the Polaris
> is LOWER FUNCTION, CASSETTE, 12, which transmits the current program in the
> Main Workspace in such a manner that if it is received by another Polaris,
> or recorded and played back into the same Polaris later, loads that program
> into the Main Workspace again, from whence it can be manually saved
> somewhere. This is mentioned on p94 of the Owner's Manual.
>
> There are other more versatile Sysex messages for reading and writing stored
> programs directly, but they all require the generation of one or more Sysex
> commands by the computer, and can't be manually invoked by the control
> panel. These are all documented in the MIDI Implementation manual.
>
> --
>
> Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul mailto:pderocco@ ...
>

Hi Paul--

Thank you so much for your response it was very helpul. It has helped me solve one half of my problem.

This is what is happening:

I have a M-Audio interface between my Mac Laptop and my Polaris. The interface is connected to the MIDI IN and MIDI OUT and goes to my laptop via USB.

I am running SysEx Librarian and I have it set up to record messsages.

I select the program on the Polaris that I have manually created and then I hit LF, Cass., 12, and it sends program information to SysEx Librarian, which records the single program.

Ok, so that much is great!

Now, I have not been able to find a way to send the program back to the Polaris. For instance, if I make a program on A1, record it in SysEx, and then delete A1 on the Polaris, I cannot get the A1 that I have saved in SysEx back onto my Polaris.

However, I have downloaded the patches from the Polaris site, (polprog1.syx, polprog2.syx, and deangelis.syx) and had SysEx send them to my Polaris and these files program all the program banks on my Polaris.

I do not understand why I cannot receive SysEx files that were programs originally created on my Polaris, sent to SysEx, and then sent back to the Polaris.

I have read through all the related sections on MIDI, computer interfacing, data streams, and the different toggle functions, but I am baffled.

---

Can anyone enlighten me on how:

1) I can create sounds on the Polaris and save them in SysEx Librarian
2) And how can I transmit them back to the Polaris?

This is important to me because on two occasions my Polaris has erased its entire memory and I have lost all of my sounds, (this is a separate problem!) My batteries are charged and nothing else seems to be wrong, but I can't afford to spend time making sounds just for them to be automatically deleted. I need to know how I can save them on another device.

Thank you.

Thomas Wilk